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#616280 - 27/05/08 10:00 AM Re: The Real McCain
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have any proof of that? if u link me, I might see where ur coming from.
Proof of what? That Marxist governments close to the United States were a clear and present danger to the security and interests of the United States?

You can start with Cuba and their activities with Soviet scum. But then again, you are, or were, and maybe still, Soviet scum.

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#616281 - 27/05/08 10:14 AM Re: The Real McCain
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Originally posted by NY Madman:
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Originally posted by Yasha:

[b]have any proof of that? if u link me, I might see where ur coming from.
Proof of what? That Marxist governments close to the United States were a clear and present danger to the security and interests of the United States?

You can start with Cuba and their activities with Soviet scum. But then again, you are, or were, and maybe still, Soviet scum.[/b]
give me a link that supports your argument. I have a hard time believing what your saying.

If you are to say that, then that Marxism is not a bad theory. with such a small island it can work. and that just because they have a different type of govt then they us, they are a threat prove me wrong. o wait u can't. u have ur opinion, and i have mine. we can keep exchanging these sentences for years and not get anywhere.

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#616282 - 27/05/08 10:20 AM Re: The Real McCain
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Why did we not do a full on attack on cuba then eh? too hard? they were a threat under ur arguement.

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#616283 - 27/05/08 10:33 AM Re: The Real McCain
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Originally posted by Yasha:

If you are to say that, then that Marxism is not a bad theory. with such a small island it can work. and that just because they have a different type of govt then they us, they are a threat prove me wrong. o wait u can't. u have ur opinion, and i have mine. we can keep exchanging these sentences for years and not get anywhere.
Maybe you grew up reading your Soviet text books and now you have brought your Soviet indoctrinated socialism with you to America.

Marxist governments in close proximity to the United States were very much a threat to the United States. Did you forget that Cuba allowed the Soviets to install nuclear warheads aimed at the US on their soil. Yes, your scum Soviet comrades.

Maybe the Cold War was some kind of blur for you. Maybe in your mind it didn't happen.

Marxist countries were and would have been a base of operations for the Soviets against the United States. That is why is was policy not to allow any Marxist countries to emerge within our hemisphere.

That was US government policy. What is so hard about that for you to understand?

I'll ignore your incoherent comment about Marxism supposedly not being a bad theory or something to that effect. Marxism is evil. The people that live under it suffer and have always suffered. There are no exceptions.

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#616284 - 27/05/08 10:56 AM Re: The Real McCain
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it's funny cause we're the only western country not to have socialized healthcare. for example. and and the rest of the western countries are doing pretty well healthwise. the poor in England live longer than the rich here in the states. so I have hard time believing your thought that Socialism is bad.

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#616285 - 27/05/08 10:58 AM Re: The Real McCain
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Back to the candidates and away from thread hijacking by Russian communists.........

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Anyone check out this HUGE line of bullshit to come out of Obama's mouth this weekend.....

In a Memorial Day campaign speech, he claimed his uncle was one of the soldiers who liberated Auschwitz. [Freak]

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/26/obama_speaks_with_deep_humilit.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV1sxq8mqvA

If Obama wasn't such an idiot and a liar, he would know that the Americans didn't liberate Auschwitz. Auschwitz is in Poland and was liberated by Stalin's troops.

The Washington Post, being the typical media outlet in the tank for Obama, didn't bother to catch his bullshit lie.

Is there even such an uncle? Maybe Obama had an uncle fighting in the Red Army.

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#616286 - 27/05/08 11:03 AM Re: The Real McCain
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how do u know that people in Sweden suffer? how do u know ppl in europe suffer? they don't. don't forget that Soviet Union was no communist. it was totalitarian authority. that's why they suffered. the government was the cause of it, not the structure of it.

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#616287 - 27/05/08 11:04 AM Re: The Real McCain
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He doesn't understand history at all, and keeps saying stupid shit. I am sure it will come back to haunt him in the general election. Maybe he is getting his facts from Yasha.

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#616288 - 27/05/08 11:09 AM Re: The Real McCain
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Originally posted by Yasha:
how do u know that people in Sweden suffer? how do u know ppl in europe suffer? they don't. don't forget that Soviet Union was no communist. it was totalitarian authority. that's why they suffered. the government was the cause of it, not the structure of it.
The present day socialist commie morons here in America are Leninist Marxists just like the Soviets were. They want to institute the exact same system, the exact same way. Their rhetoric is exactly the same is it was 80 years ago.

Communism is totalitarian by definition. It always will be, and has to be for it to exist. You can't have a commune if all the people are not forced to bend to it's will. It isn't freedom, and it is a completely sick and twisted ideology. If you like it so much maybe you should move to Cuba, or perhaps Venezuela.

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#616289 - 27/05/08 11:15 AM Re: The Real McCain
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Funny u think I am a communist. theoretical capitalism works, as does theoretical communism. In reality both don't work.

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Originally posted by NY Madman:
Back to the candidates and away from thread hijacking by Russian communists.........

......................................

Anyone check out this HUGE line of bullshit to come out of Obama's mouth this weekend.....

In a Memorial Day campaign speech, he claimed his uncle was one of the soldiers who liberated Auschwitz. [Freak]

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/26/obama_speaks_with_deep_humilit.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV1sxq8mqvA

If Obama wasn't such an idiot and a liar, he would know that the Americans didn't liberate Auschwitz. Auschwitz is in Poland and was liberated by Stalin's troops.

The Washington Post, being the typical media outlet in the tank for Obama, didn't bother to catch his bullshit lie.

Is there even such an uncle? Maybe Obama had an uncle fighting in the Red Army.

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#616290 - 27/05/08 11:17 AM Re: The Real McCain
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I'm not communist. I never said anything about that. I am not advocate a Leninist type of govt.
I am advocating a Canadian model. unlike a lot of ppl I'd rather have things organized for the people not for profit.

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Quote:
Originally posted by Yasha:
[b]how do u know that people in Sweden suffer? how do u know ppl in europe suffer? they don't. don't forget that Soviet Union was no communist. it was totalitarian authority. that's why they suffered. the government was the cause of it, not the structure of it.
The present day socialist commie morons here in America are Leninist Marxists just like the Soviets were. They want to institute the exact same system, the exact same way. Their rhetoric is exactly the same is it was 80 years ago.

Communism is totalitarian by definition. It always will be, and has to be for it to exist. You can't have a commune if all the people are not forced to bend to it's will. It isn't freedom, and it is a completely sick and twisted ideology. If you like it so much maybe you should move to Cuba, or perhaps Venezuela.[/b]

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#616291 - 27/05/08 11:28 AM Re: The Real McCain
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Originally posted by Yasha:

how do u know that people in Sweden suffer? how do u know ppl in europe suffer? they don't. don't forget that Soviet Union was no communist. it was totalitarian authority. that's why they suffered. the government was the cause of it, not the structure of it.
When did I ever say people in Sweden suffer? Don't put words in my mouth you Russian puke.

I said Marxism is evil and people who live under it's boot suffer. Sweden is not a Marxist country.

If you love Sweden so much, or any European country, what the fuck are you doing here? Why did you come here when the Iron Curtain came down? Go to fucking Europe if you think this country is so bad.

What a mistake this country made by bringing in all you Russians. American taxpayers paid all your healthcare, your living expenses in the form of welfare, and many other benefits that most American taxpayers aren't aware of. All for what? Most of you are either ingrate pieces of shit or outright criminals.

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#616292 - 27/05/08 11:32 AM Re: The Real McCain
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Quote:
Originally posted by Yasha:
I'm not communist. I never said anything about that. I am not advocate a Leninist type of govt.
I am advocating a Canadian model. unlike a lot of ppl I'd rather have things organized for the people not for profit.

Quote:
Originally posted by 20001frontier:
[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by Yasha:
[b]how do u know that people in Sweden suffer? how do u know ppl in europe suffer? they don't. don't forget that Soviet Union was no communist. it was totalitarian authority. that's why they suffered. the government was the cause of it, not the structure of it.
The present day socialist commie morons here in America are Leninist Marxists just like the Soviets were. They want to institute the exact same system, the exact same way. Their rhetoric is exactly the same is it was 80 years ago.

Communism is totalitarian by definition. It always will be, and has to be for it to exist. You can't have a commune if all the people are not forced to bend to it's will. It isn't freedom, and it is a completely sick and twisted ideology. If you like it so much maybe you should move to Cuba, or perhaps Venezuela.[/b]
[/b]
Cool, move to Canada then.

I was mainly referring to your defense of communism in what I quoted above.

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#616293 - 27/05/08 01:36 PM Re: The Real McCain
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Yasha, just curious, have you seen the Edukators?

German flick with English Subtitles; they (revolutionaries) go about to fluent peoples houses and rearrange their furniture and leave them notes that say you have too much money, etc.

After watching that, I can see why liberals, etc. buy into the Anti-Capitalism shtick.

The best part was listening to them (revolutionaries) argue against profit and for equal redistribution of wealth to the Guy they kidnapped because he caught them in his house. Ironically the revolutionaries own a vehicle, rent a villa, have ample funds for alcohol and cigarette consumption, yet don't give it all away and yearn for the day when they can afford better, jobs, villas, etc.

I'm so glad I'm not liberal anymore, however depressing it may be. IE. I can't just sit around on my duff waiting for the handout. If I want something I am solely responsible for making it happen.

Funny enough, even with subtitles it was a thousand times better than watching "New Jersey Drive" which sucked beyond belief with the ignorance it glorifies. I only could watch about a half hour before erasing it from the DVR. [ThumbsDown]

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#616294 - 30/05/08 09:03 PM Re: The Real McCain
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#616295 - 03/06/08 09:15 AM Re: The Real McCain
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Maybe.... Just maybe .... the Michelle Obama "hate whitey" video may be out this week....

http://stonezone.com/

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The Presidential contest between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is likely to be roiled in coming days by revelations that Michelle Obama made racist comments in a speech for which there is allegedly an indelible record. This is why Hillary Clinton is still in the race and why her people have been in a race with Republican Opposition Researchers to get their hands on the offensive recording.

On the heels of Michelle Obama's quote that she "has never been proud of her country" until now, the new controversy could turn the contest up-side down but is more likely to redound to the benefit of John McCain than to boost Hillary Clinton to the nomination- if the alleged recording exists.

Mark Penn, who "resigned" as the Clinton Campaign strategist but is still the Clinton campaign strategist told intimates the bombshell "could come this week"


"I'm Gonna Git You Sucka"

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#616296 - 03/06/08 09:56 AM Re: The Real McCain
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I think the video is BS. I also don't buy that Hillary is working with Republican researchers. Why would they help her? If they had this evidence they would save it for the general election.

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#616297 - 03/06/08 10:05 AM Re: The Real McCain
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I think the video is BS. I also don't buy that Hillary is working with Republican researchers. Why would they help her? If they had this evidence they would save it for the general election.
It's hard to tell if the story is bullshit. There are already some left wing bloggers out there who are claiming some type of tape does exist.

We won't know for sure until it comes out, if ever.

However, one thing that should be startling for the B. Hussein campaign is the fact that most people believe she is capable of a "hate whitey" rant.

In an interesting twist to the story, Democrat strategist Bob Beckel was on FoxNews this morning claiming there will be a "shoe drop" regarding Michelle Obama tomorrow......

http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=4129e9d3-586a-45dd-aeb9-294b819b7afa

He claims the Republicans are behind whatever is coming out. If the tape is that damaging I would say the Republicans would benefit more by releasing it two weeks before the November election. Not now.

If it comes out today or tomorrow, it can only benefit Hillary Clinton.

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#616298 - 03/06/08 10:12 AM Re: The Real McCain
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...and if it benefits Hillary, then it benefits the Republicans. They know they can't beat Obama, but they already have years of arguments against Hillary.

I mean, come on...who is going to vote for Hillary except for people like this lady:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s

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#616299 - 03/06/08 10:24 AM Re: The Real McCain
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You're wrong Wilmac.

Hillary would be a stronger candidate for the Democrats in the fall.

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#616300 - 03/06/08 10:28 AM Re: The Real McCain
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Quote:
Originally posted by NY Madman:
You're wrong Wilmac.

Hillary would be a stronger candidate for the Democrats in the fall.
Says a die hard Republican. :rolleyes:

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#616301 - 03/06/08 11:28 AM Re: The Real McCain
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Says a realist. I think Obama is going to be McGovern / Dukakis all over again.

Hillary would probably beat McCain.

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#616302 - 03/06/08 11:33 AM Re: The Real McCain
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Keep praying to your Rove-God.

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#616303 - 03/06/08 11:47 AM Re: The Real McCain
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Originally posted by WilMac1023:

Says a die hard Republican. :rolleyes:
I'm a diehard conservative, not a diehard Republican.

I don't see too much conservatism going on in the Republican Party these days.

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Originally posted by 20001frontier:

Says a realist. I think Obama is going to be McGovern / Dukakis all over again.

Hillary would probably beat McCain.
Obama is unelectable. The media is in love with him and has disgustingly thrown away any semblance or claim of objectivity. He won't win if nominated.

Could Hillary beat McCain? I don't know. McCain is a huge asshole and almost every time he opens his mouth lately he loses votes from the right.

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#616304 - 03/06/08 12:06 PM Re: The Real McCain
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Quote:
Originally posted by WilMac1023:
Quote:
Originally posted by NY Madman:
[b]You're wrong Wilmac.

Hillary would be a stronger candidate for the Democrats in the fall.
Says a die hard Republican. :rolleyes: [/b]
That depends - according to some of the polling data that I've seen (oddly enough, produced by Rove) it could be possible that she could be a tougher candidate due to her support in specific states. However, I'm not sure how that pans out in a general election after all the damage that she's managed to do to her position and what Obama's done.

I think Obama's a better overall candidate than Hillary, but I can't see voting for either.

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