22 dead do far. This could be the worst masacre in the US in years.

I think its the worse school massacre in the world... if the 22 is confirmed

To put it in perspective, that's almost twice the body count for Columbine.

Damn, they (Fox and ABC) are saying 32! That is insane.

Sayin at least 32 dead and 21 injured 4 critical. WTF

how do you kill 32 people with 2 9mm handguns? how was he not stopped? so so sad

F*ck....

He did it in spurts....probably had time to reload.

WTF would drive someone to do this. It's another blow to us law abiding gun owners for sure.

Better make sure your NRA dues are paid up....the anti-gun lobby is gonna have a field day with this one.

I have to sort of agree. Part of me thinks if this guy is just shooting random people someone would or a group would try. But 2 9mm guns can still be a lot of fire power as well.

Very tragic. Sad day. My thought to the families.

Its sounding like it wasn't spurts. One shooting in the dorm at 7 ish. 2 hours later the large incident at one of the halls. Some students saying he just entered and started firing at everyone. Unknown what is fact and what is rumors but just insane.

I've heard rumors that the shooter had lined people up and was going down the line and shooting them. It's easy for me to say from the comfort of my couch, but you'd think somebody would at least try to stop him.

not to stir the pot, but if firearms were allowed on campus would this have been prevented?

7:15 AM was the shooting in the dorm, with 1 dead.
10:15 AM (3 HOURS LATER!!!) was the second "round" of shooting at the engineering building.

Absolutely horrible...I feel for the families of the victims, but this is going to mean terrible things for responsible gun owners everywhere.

I just ran across this picture:



Didn't they say the gunman shot himself? Maybe the police were cuffing anyone in that area, and the guy above was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Do you think the shooter was asian? And maybe the police were told that??

That was a camera guy/reporter for fox, he was asking a little to many questions and was removed from the site.

In a situation like that I believe they will handcuff anyone who might look suspicious, just to be sure.

Thanks for that.

MSN's news reports are kinda sketchy, but they state "The accused gunman, William Morva, faces capital murder charges." I think it's this guy:

William Morva



ETA: D'oh, I'm retarded. I missed a part of the article - William Morva is the guy that shot up the campus last fall.

Dude...that guys still in jail awaiting trial...the shooter is dead and was asian...

MSNBC reports that he had two pistols...one 9mm and one deuce deuce...now I'm no gun expert but whats the standard clip size?? 9?? 10 bullets?? How many times did this guy have to reload to shoot well over 50 people??

If he had multiple mags pre-loaded, and accessible....I guess he could do it.

Depends. 17 is pretty standard now, but you can get clips that hold more.

I think it's a very interesting question to ponder, for sure.

As for dropping a clip and inserting another...anyone with some experience can do this in 10 seconds and work the action to chamber a round. You have terrified college kids who were probably far to scared to rush the guy...with him blazing rounds everywhere, there probably wasn't anyone that close to him.

What a piece of garbage though. Asian, huh? Boy, that sure doesn't fit the profile of a mass murderer. Law enforcement profilers are probably going to have to rewrite the books because of this guy.

It would be interesting to learn how he acquired his handguns...legally, or not.

When I went to college, you could have guns on campus; you had to check them in at the dorm desk and they'd get locked up.....of course, that was in SD, and a lot of kids hunted in the fall.

Video from a student who was shot...describes the shooting:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=67f_1176750363&p=1