Sounds like the guy imploded...and decided to kill people...methodically it seems.

If he had two pistols, all he had to do was avoid the movie version (where each is fired alternatively until both are empty)....and merely use one to shoot, and the other as reserve, so one is always ready to fire...most people only shoot one handed accurately anyway...the other is for show.....that would prevent most kids from attemting a rush, etc....and allow alternate reloads, etc.

If the guy described above as a Fox reporter was cuffed because he looked asian......I suppose next there'll be a civil rights case.

:rolleyes:

I feel SO bad for all those kids, and their families...if the gunman took his own life, I hope he screwed it up and it took a long hard time to die.

CNN said it started over a girlfriend. he shot her and the RA who tried to break up the fight. said he used a 9mm and a .22cal pistol in the shootings.

My little sister is a student there - kept me more up to date than CNN. Looks like the Brady Campaign is already spreading bullshit - saying that the VA law allows people to buy AK-47s and Uzis without limit. Hmmm...too bad FEDERAL law has limits. Those are both Class III firearms under the National Firearms Acts. You have to submit finger prints, a form signed by the chief law enforcement officer, anda photo, all in duplicate, plus a $200 tax for each weapon. Then you have to wait for the ATF to get around to approving the transfer - after the FBI checks you out. Yeah, there's no limit at all. Fucking liars.

Yep, the anti-gun liberal wankers will use this to try and push some more bullshit gun laws through. However, I think this incident proves that exactly the opposite should be taking place...less restriction.

I have an answer: No one is allowed to concealed carry on school/university grounds. That leaves everyone defenseless at the mercy of Mr. Psycho Shooter. If you were allowed to carry on school/university property, someone surely could have taken the prick out before he had a chance to kill that many people.

Incidents like this PROVE that the "safety" politicians want you to believe gun control laws offer is nothing more than an illusion. The crazy shooting spree assholes will find a way to kill people, one way or another. There are more sane people than there are crazy people. Having armed citizens everywhere who know how to safely operate firearms is a way of mitigating the damage/casualty factor caused by the crazies. An armed society is a polite society.

X2 and five trucks for you too!!!!!

Tim

PS- The finger pointing has already started, en force!!!!

This is truly tragic. Blacksburg was my home for 4 years and I truly love that place. The scariest thing for me was that I just spent the weekend there with my wife and our best friends. I even went for a run on Saturday and passed right by Norris Hall, running through campus. My heart goes out to all the parents who have lost loved ones. This is a sad day for all Hokies.

Semi Auto AK's are not Class III. Plus they hand them out at the gun show for like $320 a piece. Same as buying a Hand Gun here in AZ at least, if not even easier. Not sure if they do a semi-auto version of the Uzi, if they did it would also not be considered Class III.

Thing is - anyone taking the Class III argument needn't bother - the guy was using hand guns, which can be found at any pawn shop / gun store and in most states (Including AZ) can be purchased and taken away same day after a quick call to the Feds by the dealer.

Disregard...wrong guy.

Sad, really sad.

Yes, but when you see AK-47 or Uzi, most people automatically think fully automatic, angry Muslim guy, or Rambo, etc. The average person doesn't think scary looking, one bullet per trigger squeeze, pretty tame weapon. All I ask for is a little truth in advertising - and the AK-47 and UZI are both full auto in their unmodified forms. The semi-auto ones are either modified after the factory or are made from modified plans for the original. In reality, I could probably do more damage with a bolt action .22LR and a trip to Lowes or Home Depot.

The media in this country is such complete scum.

They wasted no time using this tragedy to push one of their political agendas... gun control.

The bodies of the victims weren't even cold yet, and the cable TV channels already had commercials advertising that political theme and agenda for their shows. No one even knows how the killer acquired the weapons.

I won't be turning in my handguns under any circumstances.

I'm an NRA life member. For you other gun owners, the NRA is our best line of defense. This one is going to become more political than any incident before it, so be ready to write letters to your congressmen. Liberals in this country are ready to eat up what the biased media will tell them.

I really want to know how this idiot obtained his firearms. I'm guessing/hoping that an existing law was violated to point out the ineffectiveness of gun control laws.

That's the part the anti gun scumbags always leave out - very few crimes committed with firearms are done so with legally obtained weapons.

Enforce the laws we have and uphold the 2nd amendment.

And seriously, when the time comes write those letters. I know I will. The day this country disarms its citizens is the day we become a completely socialist republic.

There is word that the killer was here on a student visa from China. It hasn't been officially verified by authorities yet. They still have not released his name.

As far as I know, student visa holders are not allowed to legally purchase firearms.

Let's not forget the eBay people that are going to hell too:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150113282640

So I wonder if Imus will be back in on Tuesday??

But seriously I am all for letting students carry weapons on campus. Our Campus Security do not carry weapons and I doubt they would be able to do anything about an event like this. Even just working in the dorms I know for a fact that our CS would not be able to handle something on this scale they have a hard enough time handling domestic fights. Lets just hope that no one tries to do a copy cat of today.

I agree completely un-called for!

"Item removed." Looks like Ebay agrees with you

What was it? eBay took it down.

It was like "vatechmassacre.com" or similar - there were a bunch of them, some up to $250,000.00.

Here's their response to MY 'Question to Seller": "You are a worthless piece of @#$%, who's capitalizing before the bodies are even cold."

gdsenterprise1 - "Sorry to disapoint you. You do not know me and passing such a judgement speaks volumes as to who
you are. I feel sorry for you. I really do."

Passing judgement? Hmmm...then why'd your listing get removed?

EDIT: here's their profile: http://myworld.ebay.com/gdsenterprise1

Oh, and look at all the losers trying to do the same:
http://search.ebay.com/virginia-tech_W0QQfromZR40QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ2QQsbrsrtZd

It seems like that may be possible. Cho Seung-Hui, resident of the dorm, was the shooter, or possibly one of two, they're not sure if he had help.

(edit) Nope, legal resident from Korea.

Wow - now I work in the domain industry and have snapped up some names before based on news, but that is pretty fricken sick to stoop that low.

According to Fox News the gunman was a 23 year old VA Tech student from South Korea.

I'm still in complete disbelief that this tragic event happened. To think I was a student only 2 years ago... my prayers go out to the families and friends of every student, alum, and supporter of VA Tech!

I'm in complete disbelief at the media coverage (I guess I shouldn't be that surprised).

I've already heard various media scum mention things like "healing" when none of these families who have had people murdered have even had time to come to grips with what has happened... or even grieve.

It also seems the European media is blaming everyone except the lowlife maniac who committed these murders.

Apparently Charlton Heston is also at fault according to these sick, twisted fucks.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,477686,00.html

Do you have a campus police force?

I went to a smallish, agricultural & engineering university. It had its own police force.

My roommate for two years while I lived off campus was a part-time student, part-time campus police officer. He had been trained at a state law-enforcement training facility, and he carried his sidearm and badge with him to class when he was off-duty.