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#432700 - 06/05/02 02:51 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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After watching that video, there is no reason for both tie rods to bend simply driving up that hill.

I would say they were already damaged prior to that point in time and finally decided to break there.

I would like to note that the review here on XOC is of the EOE cromoly tie rod adjusters, not the stainless ones that are bending and breaking everywhere.
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#432701 - 06/05/02 02:53 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Bad driving habits.

A lot more burly material for one thing. Heat treating for another.
...and the fact that stainless is good for show cars. wink

As for "bad driving habits" well, that can be a problem, sure. More likely it was a weak system to begin with, and possibly aftermarket parts with too soft a material... In either case, you could just as well break the next part up the food-chain in normal off-road driving because of the spec-stretching mods and stress. I'm sure EOE's parts are just fine, to a point (like any other part) - they're certainly better than stock parts which is the whole point.

I kinda wondered about the video myself - was it too steep or washy for crawling up it?
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#432702 - 06/05/02 02:58 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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That hill cannot be crawled in perfect conditions due to all the loose rocks/gravels/etc. It's a hill up to an old railroad bed. That being said, it rained all day and had rained most of the wek prior. It was very slick and snotty. A yellow crewcab slid from top to bottom just before gator tried to make it.

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#432703 - 06/05/02 03:09 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Originally posted by DesertRAT:
Not entirely a fair statement. Centerlinks go bad even if you baby them if you have a lift.
He said tie-rods, not center links.

Tie-rods bend by crashing into stuff, and forcing one wheel into a different plane than the other.
They also bend when the centerlink goes and gets jammed up into the frame.

Careful driving (especially when you know the centerlink is damaged) will prevent the tie rods from bending.
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#432704 - 06/05/02 03:16 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Originally posted by xoc:

I would like to note that the review here on XOC is of the EOE cromoly tie rod adjusters, not the stainless ones that are bending and breaking everywhere.
Foot in mouth...please refrain from making comments when you have no idea what you are talking about. Gators tie rods adjusters were chromoly versions.
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#432705 - 06/05/02 03:36 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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So SLR , is there a plan in the works as part of your steering setup to manufacture a new beefier center link ? Possibly using heavier duty tubing ? It looks like even with a new stronger tie rod , you are still at the mercy of the center link.
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#432706 - 06/05/02 03:37 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Foot in mouth...please refrain from making comments when you have no idea what you are talking about. Gators tie rods adjusters were chromoly versions.
When I made my post, it was to the best of my knowledge. I have seen several stainless versions bend. I had not seen any cro-moly versions bend. Now I have.
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#432707 - 06/05/02 03:59 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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I guess the point is no matter what you make it out of, if the damn dogbone centerlink goes, and slams the tie rods into the frame you are screwed.
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#432708 - 06/05/02 04:01 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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EOE: Could you please answer my question about what grade of stainless steel you are using for your tie rod adjusters?

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#432709 - 06/05/02 04:17 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Originally posted by Spencer Low Racing:
socalpunX:


EOE: Could you please answer my question about what grade of stainless steel you are using for your tie rod adjusters?
Pricing?
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#432710 - 06/05/02 04:18 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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For anyone who can't figure out that picture, it's a new centerlink, with sleeved ends, new gusseted double shear pitman and idler arms, new tie rod links and hardware.
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#432711 - 06/05/02 04:24 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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That right there is some exciting stuff!
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#432712 - 06/05/02 04:26 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Awesome...
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#432713 - 06/05/02 05:26 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Ian,
Do you still feel the same way about the EOE adjusters?
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Testing has been ongoing since I installed the EOE tie-rods on August 27th. Since then, they have performed well for over 3000 road miles and 700 off-road miles.
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#432714 - 06/05/02 05:46 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Ian,
Do you still feel the same way about the EOE adjusters?
Yes, they work fine.
I don't abuse my truck, and know exactly what types of driving breaks which parts, so breaking/bending them really isn't an issue for me.

It's easy not to break tie-rods. My stock ones never broke, and only bent because the swaybar bumped into them for a year.

I think switching to stainless was a mistake though by EOE.
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#432715 - 06/05/02 08:02 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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"I think switching to stainless was a mistake though by EOE"

Walk it off, Dick!

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#432716 - 06/05/02 08:15 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Please keep this informative. Don't bring non-productive information into this thread.

Thanks
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#432717 - 06/05/02 11:19 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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That picture looks promising! I need one of those now!!!! smile
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#432718 - 07/05/02 12:04 AM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Walk it off, Dick!
Nice attitude. Why don't you take that 'censorship style' of post back to the AC board. I posted my opinion based on what I know about materials.
Stainless is not as strong as chromoly, get over it.
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#432719 - 07/05/02 04:52 AM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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[b]Walk it off, Dick!
Nice attitude. Why don't you take that 'censorship style' of post back to the AC board. I posted my opinion based on what I know about materials.
Stainless is not as strong as chromoly, get over it.[/b]
Quite whining already. Sure you posted your opinion and it's biased because of your relationship with the companies that sponser you and this board.

I'll be glad to go back to the AC board, no worries...your constant whining is getting boring...Yawn...

I wish I could buy something from SLR or Calmini but I can't. Both companies remind me of you..

SLR, Calmini, are you guys listening, XOC isn't doing you any favors regardless of what you may think. To bad too, sweet products.

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#432720 - 07/05/02 04:55 AM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Sure you posted your opinion and it's biased because of your relationship with the companies that sponser you and this board.
Bullshit. Look up there, what do you see ? An EOE banner and a glowing review of the EOE tie-rods.
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#432721 - 07/05/02 06:26 AM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Ugh. I think this whole page (5) could be deleted. WTF?
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#432722 - 07/05/02 11:58 AM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Originally posted by DesertRAT:
Can someone give a detailed explanation as to why the moly ones are better than the stainless ones? I'm no metalurgist and am curious about this.
Read back a few posts, page three or four - there's a pretty good explanation by Dez from SLR I think it was...

Basically, the chromoly steel is harder...
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#432723 - 07/05/02 12:16 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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Sometimes.......

But, if it's just bent, it's possible to just do a trail side alignment to get off the trail. While if it's broken, you have to replace it on the trail.

It all depends on how far it bends...Gator drove back to Florida with 1 Adjuster bent pretty bad.

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#432724 - 07/05/02 12:30 PM Re: more EOE center links die at Nissan Net.. Story at 10
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...And one of my stock ones to use if he needed it.

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