Ian,
Not looking for consumer reports - just the cliff notes.
Do you like the SLR 3" Lift?
-Tim


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01SE 6cyl 5spd SolrYelow

Ian probably likes the lift except that fact that it's not really 3".

Sure he does, its free
whats not too like





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LOL, Oleg! You don't give up...

AFAIK, he likes it.

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01SE 6cyl 5spd SolrYelow

What makes you think that ?

Compared to a stock Xterra, the lift is right at 3 inches.

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Regards,
Ian

Now we just need a good BODY lift...

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01SE 6cyl 5spd SolrYelow

STOCK Xterra ?! What's that?

I hear you knockin' ...

There is no such beast. And body lifts are really made for street cruisers ...

I was at 4Wheel Parts yesterday and they said that they had one made by Performance Accessories for about $260. The install price was heinous though (500 bones).



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Mine: 2001 Solar Yellow XE w/ lots of toys.
Hers: 2001 SuperBlack XE, 99.9% stock.
www.urbanassaultxterra.com Updated on 04.12.01:Gallery 2

4x4 I think has one as part of their kit - look at the pictures.

Street Cruisers? I'm not so sure about that. What's the main thing that all the modified owners are bitching about right now? Fitting larger tires, rubbing on fuel filler necks or wheelwells... This would solve that.

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01SE 6cyl 5spd SolrYelow

BP's right, a body lift would solve some rubbing problems (albeit not mine...I rub on the brake line covers in the front that attach to the frame, not the body.)

HOWEVER, for the number of Xterra owners who have replacement front (& rear) bumpers, body lifts are a much bigger PITA to install...a guy on the 4x4Parts website recently bodylifted his Frontier and made some sort of bracket to shim his ARB up, it looks quite fugly. I also wouldn't want to winch/snatch w/ an ARB/KMA that's been elevated three inches above the frame rails.

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Vikram/gothamist -- MAXC member
http://www.4x4LO.com

Good points, Vikram. It's all a trade-off, I guess and we're cursed with small wheelwells.

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01SE 6cyl 5spd SolrYelow

Your ignorance is showing.

Body lifts are not just for the street, and are useful whenever a suspension lift won't get you to the height you want safely.

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Regards,
Ian

Exactly how big do you want to go ?

Driver skill is much more important than tire size.

Anything bigger than 32-33 is basically pointless on a new $25k, daily driven vehicle.

If you want big tires, spend $3k on a beat up Bronco, and take a Sawz-All to it.

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Regards,
Ian

this is an ignorant question but how much on average do suspension or leaf kits cost is rancho the way to go and how much should installation run. Also should I get the lift and bigger tires at the same time or can I do one first and then the other and which should be done first that wont make it look goofy.

thanks.

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'01 super black XE 4x4
name: VADER

That can depend on the stock vehicle too.

If the suspension works fine, a mild body lift will allow larger tires.

Jeeps have excellent suspension capabilities, but very small wheel well openings. 32 inch tires on a Cherokee requires a 4 inch lift, so be thankful Nissan opened up the Xterra wheel wells like they did.

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Regards,
Ian

Driver skill is more important than any lift or modification you can make, I have seen plenty of stock or nearly stocks rigs go places you would never imagine they could. Now your comment on any tire bigger than a 32/33 being pointless makes no sense, since many full size trucks come with tires close to 32's from the factory and they can fit 33's or 35's with the same type of 3" lift you installed. For the X to go to 33's or bigger there is a need for additional work as the engine does not produce enough power, this is why I am swapping my R&P's to account for the tires I am about to run. People choose to modify $500 beaters and $40,000 trucks because that's the vehicle they choose..to each is own but just because it is a daily driver and brand new does not mean you can't make it a serious trail rig.


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So, I did a search at BoarderPhreak's recommendation and found nothing. Has he (Ian) posted a review yet?
Thanks,
Brad

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[This message has been edited by Strom (edited 05-05-2001).]

A truck with a body lift is simply not as safe as a truck without one when off-road. I don't need to list out all the reasons why do I? Someone wants to run a mild body lift (1") on the trail, fine. Anything more than that is asking for trouble. A street cruiser who wants to have bigger tires can get a body lift, but a trail rig should not. That's my opinion on body lifts, not ignorance.



[This message has been edited by Philosopher (edited 05-08-2001).]

But a tall suspension lift is (like 8" from EOE) ?

Can you explain why physics don't apply to the suspension lift, but they do to the body lift ?

Suspension lifts raise everything from the suspension up, while a body lift only raises the body, leaving the heavy frame lower.

With your logic, the body lift would be safer.

Tell me where you heard all this BS.

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Regards,
Ian

Relax Ian.

I'm not one much for huge suspensions lifts either, top heaviness is not good no matter how it is achieved. The point I was trying to make is that IMO body lifts are not good in general - i.e. "There is no such thing as a good body lift". You don't agree with me, fine.



[This message has been edited by Philosopher (edited 05-09-2001).]

in response to Chony's "Do you like the SLR 3" Lift?"




Gee, the constant ribbing from certain guys about it being free?


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I've been hacked by PoizonBOX.

So Ian, how did that lift work out? Or is there a link you have to a review yet?

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Relax, have a homebrew,
Joe

The 8-9" lift from EOE will be with tires as well, NJ law states I can not go more than 9" over stock so that is what I am shooting for. Proper offset and wider tires are always needed when you lift a vehicle, safety is something EOE is greatly concerned with and the lift is geared with this in mind. People must realize though that any truck with larger tires, lifted or not will act differently on and off road. I will post tons of pictures/video when the lift is completed and during the extensive testing we plan on putting it through. These will be on and off road as well as RTI ramp shots. We are also working on another less radical lift for the Xterra/Frontier which will allow for a 33 to be run and dramatically increase the articulation as well as the handling...it is not like any other lift out on the market as well. As an experienced off roader and owner of the company I chose to go pretty radical with my lift, some obvious reasons are that I want to explore the limits of the Xterra, display our talents/products and plan on entering competitions with my truck. This project has taken quite some time to design and source all the parts, all that I am waiting for now is time since this will not be a one day install. Our current schedule is the middle of next month for the install and after that we will start working on the second lift design for Xterra/Frontier.

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[This message has been edited by FSRBIKER (edited 05-14-2001).]