Whoa, uhhh, I'm really not trying to get in the middle of a flame war here so take this fwiw okie dokie

I only took a "friendly stab" at XOC at the 4x4 board and that is all it was. Definately not a put down. The "Iron Chest" is definately a difficult trail. Without the hopper gears(which I don't have) you will smoke your clutch no matter what. I don't care what you have unless you have totally regeared your rig (you have to do the trail to fully understan what I'm reffering too). As far as XOC going part way up that trail, that should be commended not belittled.

Can you make that trail without locks and hopper gears????? Yes, but we spent all after noon helping my yota buddy out to get him up there, the rest of us are locked and lifted and running much superior tires compared to him(yota). And yes your truck will take a HUGE punishment! So I don't want people taking what I said about XOC out of context, which was just me poking a little fun

BTW I'm just running an old Hardbody with many dents and years of wheeling on it, so damage to me really isn't that big of an issue anymore, if I had a newer vehicle I would definately be more concerned than what I have now.

I also was the one that stated the tie-rod issue with Mike. He assured me they were working on the steering set-up and I have no reason to doubt him about that either. I believe(though I didn't ask) that his tierod setup was so that he could wheel all week and not break anything on the trail. I consider that some good forthought (albeit not one I would have done for money reasons alone). Also I just bought a new steering centerlink right before this trip and by the end of "Iron chest" it is almost shot. These things are really really week when lifted and lots of rockcrawling. Just something you get used to doing when owning a Nissan. Anyway I don't know if he brought an extra set or not or why he did not have a prototype steering set up either(forgot to ask).<-----though this would have been the place to test it if he had it.

So anyway later fellas and happy wheeling!

I think the problem is from people "Beefing up" their tie rods. People have been doing this because the are "weak".

Here are my thoughts.. In any system you always have a weak link. If you are smart you make the "weak" link an inexpensive and easy to replace part, like the tie rods. To me the tie rods are sort of like fuses on an electrical system. If they keep blowing then you should know that you have a bigger problem.

Beefing them up will only allow you to break a more expensive and harder to replace part while on the trail.

Boy Ian, you must be really pissed you can't make any friends in your Rocky Mountain Xterra Club, huh?

Anyway, this was a good laugh when I got home. Let's see here...how many tries did it take you to get to the top of the waterfall at Black Bear? How many tries did it take Philosopher? Or how many tries did it take Pikachu's GIRLFRIEND? But right...we're the ones who can't drive.

BTW, that pic of my truck that stormy posted was taken the day after I installed my lift as well, so go try and find another reason to prove I'm an idiot.

p.s. I trust plenty of people's advice on these boards, just usually not yours...I have seen the terrain that the PNWX guys run (used to live out there) and know what it's like...plus they tend to pay for their parts, which is perhaps why they aren't hiding flaws like toasted steering components.

All of the blown centerlinks have come from people using the stock tie rods so your conclusion is not true at all. My centerlink is fine, and yes I am running the HD tie rod adjusters. I kind of see your point about a weak link(from Nissan's design point of view) but in fact the aftermarket for most every other truck has designed some HD components to eliminate the weak links..the HD tie rod adjusters are just the first step. I certainly would not have wanted a tie rod adjuster to bend or break when I was going up Carburetor Hill(in Kentucky) which you have to be hard on the throttle to make it up..to then lose my steering control and drop off the edge of the cliff the trail runs next to. I don't want a weak link on my truck.....at all.

Ian, the fact is you do care. I had my rant because i think you're an arrogant prick who likes to push people around to make yourself look (and feel) better. I've seen you do it before, and you were doing it to me.

What do you expect... To throw around insults about how people are in a particular part of the country and not expect a responce (another example of Ian being arrogant). Yes Ian, I may have attacked you but I didn't drag everyone in the rocky mountain area into it by insulting what mods they have. Does that make you a RMJO? You're a jacka$$ Ian, and you continue to prove that with every bitter post.
Do you actually think that east coast members gang up on people?! You're reaching for insults Ian, but I know it's hard\impossible for you not to get the last word in.

Loose the god complex and I'm always right attitude Ian. :p

Where would we be without Ian The Great??? :rolleyes:

[ 08-14-2001: Message edited by: stormy ]

Lies by xoc:
Let's see here...how many tries did it take you to get to the top of the waterfall at Black Bear?

3 when Mike was spotting me, 1 when I got out and spotted myself.

Take another look at the video Ian. You never got out of your truck and looked at the trail yourself, which is why it took you 3 times to get up. I tried to tell you how to attack the obstacle, but The Great Ian Firth (TGIF) wasn't about to take advice from a Maryland boy on his home turf. Dumb on your part.

How many tries did it take Philosopher?

2

I think you mean one. Without stopping.

Or how many tries did it take Pikachu's GIRLFRIEND?

So it looks like women are better drivers, and ECJO's can't spot.

Nope, just that Sherrie is a better driver than you!


When TGIF is in a corner and realizes he's wrong, he lies instead of admitting he's wrong. Plain and simple. So sad.

Originally posted by xoc:

Ok, I will when someone proves me wrong.

How do you prove to a megalomaniac that he's wrong?


Who's video ? Your edited video ? I got out of my X twice and looked at the obstacle.

Prove it. Post the entire video of the hour we were there.


It's either on Carlton's video or on Pikachu's video. I wasn't filming video, I was (in your words) making "short work of the obstacle up the correct line."

HUGS!

[ 08-14-2001: Message edited by: Philosopher ]

I've got to hand it to you Ian. You've got a come back for EVERYTHING!

That's because I'm not human, but just a 'bot running on the server here...

But Mike and I haven't talked this much in 6 months. I miss our dialogs.

Holy Sh*t. You guys are killin me!


What round is it?


I'm sure it occurred to everyone by now that Ian loves conflict. If he didn't, he just wouldn't respond.

[ 08-14-2001: Message edited by: arkman ]

No Sh!t...

Hey, I heard that...

You're such a Bot!

Your words not mine...

please stop the XOC lovefest people. Blech. :p

It was a joke Matt... didn't you see the


Ruin the fun again :p

Hey im SSRXterra you know the guy with the "To cranked up T-Bar's, for that way cool look." But I have a legit question.

Caver-X, do you happen to know anything else about this steering setup that AC is rumored to be making? I would love to know if this is for real or simply made up. I would deffently be in the market for a new steering setup. Please let me know if ya know anything. Thanks, ~Kevin

Don't you mean Belch

how dare you to correct my onamonapeitic spelling! Just because I am from Connecticut, stop singling those of us out who were lucky enough to grow up in the one county in the world that was found to be accent free! When will the persecution end!

Give 'em a call (954-970-9626), they'll be more than happy to tell you what they have in the works!