Very interesting...
I only have one question..
What is the Rear Replacement System NP12710 for $425.00?
Will it work on a non-SAS Xterra?

"Basic kits(NP12705) available containing only the springs packs.

Rear replacement system complete(NP12710) with shackles, sway bar disconnects, brake line extensions, U-bolts, shocks and hardware."

Thanks. I dont know how I missed that.

Now has anyone done this? With the xception of the SAS guys?

How long did it take to get the springs and setup in after ordering it?

Did you buy the whole kit and replace everything or just some new U bolts with the new springs?

Did you stick with the standard spring perches or go with something different?

Woody,

Took me about an hour to install the springs. Pretty easy direct bolt-on.

I just purchased the springs, u-bolts (should’nt re-use u-bolts & they need to be bit longer than stock) I cut off the extra that was hanging below the plate so that took another 15 minutes each side. Also provided my own new ½” lock washers.

I already had shocks that would work (ie..longer) but you need to consider that and the bump stop extension if appropriate.

The stock perches and all other hardware is reused.

The kit appears to be a good deal especially if you want to run the quick disco which includes the longer arms need.

Thx Xtoolbox,

Did you use the same length shock as is used on the 3" lift kit? or are they longer than that?

If so - what make/model are you running?

Did you also have to use the brake line extenders?

I’m using these with 1.5” lift shackles so I’m running longer shocks… some old Doetsch 8000 shocks (16/27.5’s) from a previous project that been working well for me.

Yes I’m running the two spacers that come with the SAS kit that raise the brake/ABS lines so they are long enough. With just the springs you maybe ok with the stock stuff but I sure the spacers can't be much $.

Anyone know for sure if they're open this week? Nothing on the phone message saying they won't be, but they're not open NOW (mon 26th 9:30 CA time) and I really need to order up a new spring pack, among other things...

dbax check your pm

Got the spring packs last night . I'm waiting on the "spring perch sliders" to mount them. I'll update the thread soon.

Alright, I've got the new spring packs on the perches and everything's bolted up. However, using the OE shackles has caused the springs to force the shackles backwards to the rear of the truck. I'm going to remove the OE stuff and go back to the Calmini Sachkles. This should force the springs to compress, (not be soo vertical) and prevent them from pushing backwards. I only hope the ass end's not sticking up too far.
I'll let you know..

Dan,
After installing the new rear springpack, can you measure the center of the wheel opening to the ground on both sides for me?
And you are running 32" tires, right?

I'm just comparing getting a new springpack vs. what height I'm at right now. If I actually need it..

Thanks!

33" Bridgestone Dueler Mts
and as for the center of the wheel well down, it'll be different. I rolled back the wheel wells (turned the metal in to raise the clearance height) over two years ago, so they aren't prolly the same height as yours anyhoo.

the height's an unknown right now as the OE shackles are too short and get pushed backwards, so, I'm re-installing the CALMINI shackles and that should hold them in place. I'm hoping the height increase will be a non-factor.. I'll keep posting w/ info as I get it done.

I recommend measuring the bottom of the spring hanger from the frame, to the ground, and then height to center of rear wheel hub, as a reference point in determining rear lift.

It would allow conversion between various tires/pressures and so forth.

Did you put the plastic outside wheel well trim back on after you trimmed the sheet metal? Just curious how it looked afterwards.

I rolled the metal on my grand national rear wheel wells. I can fit 10.5" slicks (or my 275-50r15 street tires) back there now.
I assume that the X would be just as easy to roll for clearance, and the fact that there is plastic trim going back, it should be a lot more forgiving. Hell, I'll probably have to do that after I get the 35's anyway. Thanks for the idea.

I agree with you TJ, measuring from the frame of the leaf spring hangers to the ground would be better for comparision. Thanks!

After you get the calmini shackles back on, shoot me a measurement if possible.
Thanks!

SAS Springpacks and Calmini shackles-


How it all looks (Shock mount/sliders too)-


Rear wheel well metal rolled back-


Distance from front spring hanger bolt center to ground 14 1/2"

Now I can't fit it in the garage anymore Well, that's ok. I'm throwing on the 2" BL this week too..

Nice truck.

Once all of the snow melts (all 24"+ of it) I'll take a measurement of mine just to compare.

Damn! The trimming is CLEAN!! Great job with it. I would never have noticed in those pix. Looks stock only without the plastic wheel well trim.

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.
Good luck with the body lift. Might want to start spraying down those bolts a week or two in advance.

thanks Chris, I forgot to get this in the pic too though-

WARN XD9000i with 5/16"x125' X-line and honkin' yellow hook

The 2"BL, crawler gears, and front LSD go in later this month..

Dan, Your front suspension will thank you for losing more than 30lbs with the synthetic line.
I put my Masterpull line in back about 3+ years ago, when I got my winch. It is the best thing for recovery. You dont have to fear for your life when winching.

And the T-case gears.. You will be wondering how you were able to wheel without them.. Best money I ever spent on my truck. I wish I did them first!

Enough talk about the DAMN GEARS!!!

At least untill I get mine.

Assholes,

You should have waited on your lift and got the gears instead. Hahahahaaha

Wellll, DAMMIT. There is just so many things I want. Maybe you are right.

And stop laughing at me.

Hum…truck appears almost level even with the longer shackles? Is that correct? Or is the picture/driveway sloped some?

Looks like you installed the military/double wrap on the shackle end rather than front hanger like normal. Wonder if that makes a height difference and maybe why the stock shackles did'nt work? Should work either way with the longer shackles but stock the springs roll under on the shackle & over on the front hanger which supports the weight better. The military wrap adds to that and gives some more insurance if the main breaks.

DBAX you fit 33's with a 3 inch lift or do you have anything else done to ur truck.