I installed the Calmini winch bumper and a Warn XD9000i winch last week and got to pull a Jeep out of the muck this weekend. He got in a little deep and lost his clutch. We had to hook a tow strap from my truck to Xman6 behind me because the the winch was pulling me to the Cherokee instead of me pulling him out.

It was very funny how reluctant they were to allow an Xterra to winch out their Jeep. They were like "well we can get it".

Gotta love it!

I think that their pride was damaged more than the truck.

Good Job Steve. How are you liking that Calmini bumper so far??

He must have been stuck pretty good for it to take 2 Xs to free him. How did he expect to get out with out you? :rolleyes:
The new bumper looks great, I hope the Jeepers appreciated it!

The bumper is great, having a winch on these Xcursions is really nice. But, I think winching this Jeep popped the thread on the 2 bolts on the front of the frame rails. I'm getting the bumper welded on this morning.

Silver Raider: No thanks, No handshake. We pulled him and went on our way.

What an asshole. Should of left his dumbass in the trenches.

Steve, just a suggestion, in the future you may want to throw a blanket or jacket over the winch line. If you ever have one come loose you'll be happy you did it.

If I were you, and they were like, "I dunno, I think we can get it (being dicks about it)", I'd say "have a nice day, good luck digging" and be on my merry way.

Thanks for pointing out my laziness. You wouldn't believe how difficult it was to keep people out of the line of fire if that line snapped. In the 3rd picture I'm to the right of the guy in the red ball cap with a tree between me and the winch line.

Does anyone have any experience with synthetic winch rope? I was reading because of the lighter weight they aren't nearly as dangerous as steal wire rope.

Yeah but that is what makes us X owners so great

I have an article on it somewhere that I had gotten off of Rockcrawler. I have been thinking about it myself.

What a nice site to see, an Xterra wiching out a Jeep. Who would've thought?

Well I'm sure they were a little embarrassed, especially when you started snapping photographs of the rescue...

Actually I didn't take any of the photos, I was busy helping these guys out. You can thank my girlfriend for these. One interesting thing. 2 hunters came through while we were doing this and one had bought a 2002 SE S/C for his wife. He was thrilled to see us out playing, especially winching out a redneck. He had no idea the Xterra was capable of running these trails. The hunters were a little critical of the deterioration of the trails since Disney has become popular for offroaders. The hunter driving had a lifted F-150 that had 33" tires and he was planning to go to 35" because of the condition of the trails.

So who went through the hole after getting the Jeep out?

Here is the info that I had read on the winch rope it was on Rockstomper

None of us felt stupid enough to try.

Master-Pull

Hey i just noticed this thread over on jeepsunlimited.com. First i want to thank you for pulling the guy, being that he hadnt done that for you. Second, that guy is not a jeeper, we're discussing it on our forum right now and he's an idiot, his jeep isnt even built to handle mud like that.

Anyways, no one on the jeep boards out of 20,000 people that i know of are like that, we are always willing to help someone, and always end up with ungrateful losers like this more often than not.

the worst being one of the Grand Cherokee owners pulling out a stuck durango, and the guy didnt even thank them, just kept smoking his joint while he got pulled out , he even had his kids in the car.

Thanks for being a true "off-roader".

I think not thanking anyone is a psycological reaction to being a publicly exposed jackass. They just want to get the hell outa there. I'm not knocking anyone for attempting the mud hole, thats what everyone is out there for.

I pulled out a wrecker stuck on the beach on night and got no thanks or anything. He was out there looking for people to pull out and charge them $50. Maybe I shouldn't have unhooked from him until he payed me.

Too bad you didn't get to make an extra $50!

The wrecker incident was in Galveston. They are like vultures roaming around out there at night.

I was just in Conroe last weekend. My inlaws live in Bentwater.

I can't speak for all Jeep owners by any means, but I will say that Jeeps get stuck just like any other rig out there on the trail. Whether its from lack of driving skill, trail conditions, or lack of modifications to our rigs.

Honestly, I could care less who or what winches my ass out if I'm in a bad way. And I'm fairly certain that most Jeep owners would agree with me. Yes, most of us are prideful to be behind the wheel of a Jeep, but most of us are not assholes that are reluctant to be winched by a non-Jeep vehicle; this guy is one of the exceptions. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Yo! Economos, It's Samueul from the XJ forum on JU. I agree one hundred percent, as you will find most folks on this board do to.

I have had a MasterPull line on my winch (warn xd 9000) for the last year and a bit. The main reasons that I wanted it were:

1- Safety
2- Much easier to handle I'm a climbing so dealing with rope seems more natural
3- The Hook is much beefier and locks to the tow point

It is also much lighter but did not know this until I bought it.

I contacted Warn to see why they do not recommend synthetic lines and they replied that it will cause the motor to over heat due to the insulation of the line. I have yet to have a problem and have used my winch a bunch of times.

It is also expensive so treat it well. I have a rope brush and make sure to clean my line every once in a while with water. Helps get the mud and dirt out.

Reply from an XJ owner

I read this and registered just to reply
(BTW-- "Xj" is not a new Nissan-- it's a cherokee ;-) )

anyway, Cudos to the Xterra guy that winched out the XJ-- although we all poke fun at each other (IFS? c'mon), we should all be willing to help others out, and be grateful when we get help. Jeeps are not indestructable, nor are Xterras. Everyone gets stuck once in a while.

Anyway, just letting you guys know that jeepers aren't all jerks.

Just a quick visit from JU.
I too agree that there are assholes on the trails out there, and I would not care who or what pulls me out if I get stuck.
I am always glad to help anyone on the trails.
That's what most of us go out for......enjoying a driving challenge and seeing beautiful views.
You are always going to have a couple of bad apples from time to time.

Just my .02
--Jeeps--

Exactly. (Unibody? c'mon!)

Hey! The unibody flexes like a mother Only problem, is sometime my back hatch gets stuck open or closed, because it's made out of fiberglass

These pics make me happy. I had a 3 year lease on a Cherokee, loaded, with a 5 speed manual.....never loved a truck so much. Why I didn't buy it out I don't know, to make things worse, then I got a car.... ....but today I am getting out of this car lease early and getting into a SC Xterra SE with a 5 speed (new 2002) ......I have a feeling i'm going to like it more then the Cherokee

Oh I also am still a Jeep owner....have a mint CJ7 ......but the Liberty....well... ... I'm also glad to getting the SC Xterra with the 5 speed now that they won't offer them in 2003 models

wow, all you xterra owners seems real shock and happy that an xterra pulled out a jeep. maybe because you all know jeeps are so good you wouldn't think that this would ever happening.

Who let this guy in? This is the type of post that will be limited if/when XOC becomes a pay to post site.

Me think 'american-made' talk like caveman.

Assholes are assholes, no matter what they drive. We should try and help each other out on the trails no matter the rig. It's just common courtesy. If I have my way, this X of mine will have some Jeep parts installed very soon, don't know what I'll call it then...but I hope somebody would give me a hand any way.

Just thought I'd add this pic from Calico a few months ago.

"maybe because you all know jeeps are so good you wouldn't think that this would ever happening."...

dang! i hope all jeepers dont talk like this fool you wonder why we have no love or respect for sheeps when they come in & act all ignorant...

i will give props to the guys that posted earlier like reasonable adults & actually had something good to say.

I know this is late, but I've just gotta jump in here for a second.
I'm an ex-jeep owner, actually several times over, and just recently sold my 2nd jeep, which was an 83 Jeep CJ7. It literally almost made me cry to sell it, but it goes that way sometimes. Anyway, I was a member of a jeep club, and had my CJ stocked with mods that could allow me to climb straight up a tree. It was a lot of fun. I was by no means hardcore, and I always just enjoyed the tread lightly motto. BUT, most of the jeep owners I knew WERE very hard core and arrogant about some things. And when stuck, they would be so hard headed, they would rather leave their jeep stuck rather than getting winched out by anything other than another jeep. So when I saw this picture I BUSTED out laughing!! I've found that X's are VERY capable of doing anything jeeps can, and I have a new found respect for X's after owning one. I can imagine that Jeep owner being rude, and it doesn't surprise me. He's probably getting ripped on by his hardcore junkie friends as we speak. BUT, you can bet that he went home after running the trail, put a For Sale sign on his rig, and is more than likely running over jeeps today in his X! I personally don't care about what others drive on the trail, just as long as they're out there. And even if they're concrete bound, I don't care either...who am I to judge a person? I think it's great though that there are X owners that are willing to help out others in time of need....whether the other person is in another X, a volkswagon, or a...dare I say it...JEEP.

I don't know, I think being able to drive up trees is pretty hardcore!

Something like this?





Brent

so much for Tread Lightly........and you wonder why they close trails to vehicles?

Except when Brent does this he uses a saw first.. Much easier to drive up a tree when they are fallen on the ground.. Right Brent?
:p

And we're off and running.....

Ah, I'm immune to it now. Besides, I didn't drive up/on the tree you're referring to Carlton :p No sense beating a dead horse ya know...

That tree didn't lose a scrap of bark. That truck had dual lockers, 2 transfer cases, and an amazing crawl ratio.

Brent

I still don't understand the fuss about chopping down a little tree . . .

In about two months, I'll have one in my livng room!

But if he pushed it over on accident then you see the trail shut down soon after.
I'd rather not risk it, some people say that they go off trail is to make it more challenging, I say if you want something more challenging then DO A DIFFERENT TRAIL.

But what if you own a UniMog? Then there's no such thing as a challenging trail.

[/QUOTE]I don't know, I think being able to drive up trees is pretty hardcore! [/QB][/QUOTE]

Hee hee. Being able to drive up a tree and actually doing it are two different things. I love mods, and I really enjoyed beefing the old jeep up. But when it came down to it, I wasn't about flexing, showing off how verticle I could get, or anything like that. I was just about having a good time out in nature with my friends. I wanted my jeep to be capable of doing things if it came down to having to do it on a trail for reality purposes. The last thing I wanted was to be on a trail with busted axles, crappy tires, poor suspension, low clearance, etc. I put a lot of blood, tears, and sweat into it, but unlike a lot of jeeps (and jeepers), I never considered myself "hardcore," more like "capable." It was a beefy jeep, but probably the ugliest dog on the trail. All I care about is having fun, being respectful, and staying away from those that ridicule others based on their rig.

I don't know, I think being able to drive up trees is pretty hardcore! [/QUOTE]

Hee hee. Being able to drive up a tree and actually doing it are two different things. I love mods, and I really enjoyed beefing the old jeep up. But when it came down to it, I wasn't about flexing, showing off how verticle I could get, or anything like that. I was just about having a good time out in nature with my friends. I wanted my jeep to be capable of doing things if it came down to having to do it on a trail for reality purposes. The last thing I wanted was to be on a trail with busted axles, crappy tires, poor suspension, low clearance, etc. I put a lot of blood, tears, and sweat into it, but unlike a lot of jeeps (and jeepers), I never considered myself "hardcore," more like "capable." It was a beefy jeep, but probably the ugliest dog on the trail. All I care about is having fun, being respectful, and staying away from those that ridicule others based on their rig.[/QB][/QUOTE]

Very well said. Capable is the key.

If he pushed it over by accident, then it would have already been DEAD (and he could have messed up his truck in the fall). Yeah, dead trees have their role too, but they're fair game for the most part.

Brent