No nerve hit whatsoever; I'm just not putting up with that crap anymore. I've given up on backing up my views with fact and trying to persuade others into my way of the thinking; I am now resolved to that fact that 51% of registered voters are complete morons and I will continue to call them that (amongst other things) to their face. Fuck it, I'm a sore loser.

Not to mention, almost all are taken out of context - or rather, they are saying he has *tried* to get them and is continuing to try...NOT that he HAS them.

Any protests on either side that I've seen...

It's the pro-life people who drag their kids there, not the pro-choice.

And I don't see any of the pro-choice people "hating" as you put it.

Pro-choice people say let people do as they choose. Pro-life people are saying, "hey, you shouldn't be allowed to make the choice."

Well that is convenient since you agree with their position. Pro-life and Pro-choice are dishonest names for the groups. How about pro-abortion and anti-abortion?

Actually no, those last two are dishonest.

That would be just the same as calling them pro-life and anti-life. Or pro-choice and anti-choice.

And I wouldn't call it convenient, as I do not engage in the debate as far as protests go. I have never attended anything as a participant, only an observer.

This last week they were all in DC. (caused traffic to be hell...damn them both! ) And I can tell you from my own viewing - the pro-life groups were FILLED with children. The pro-choice groups were not - they did have children, but not even close to the number of the pro-life groups.

Wrong. They are either for abortion to be legal or not. There is nothing dishonest about it. Pro-abortion doesn't mean that they want all pregnancies to be aborted. I personally don't think it should be illegal, but I think it should be a last resort. To many people use it when they could carry the baby full term and let it go to a good home. Hell most people have an aversion to animal shelters that kill unwanted dogs, but don't have a problem with a baby being killed.

As to the protests, you think there stance may have something to do with the fact they actually have children?

Ironic that the pro-life set is for 100% for "life" 'til they are born. Once the kids are born, if there is any struggle or strife, the "scum" is on their own...(e.g., she's just some crap-ass welfare momma shittin' out babies.) :rolleyes:

But hey, now they can get God and Gerber, thanks to those faith-based initiatives.

I agree with anti-abortion and the other should be baby killers or toddler murderers.

So does that mean you are in favor of welfare to pay for crack-addicted womens babies or are you gonna just have them come live with you?

That is a ridiculous statement. How the hell would you know? I just made the comment being a smart-ass. I personally know LOTS of women that have had abortions. It isn't uncommon at all.

I actually agree with most of what you have said. I'd rather someone not have an abortion. But in the end, it's not my choice, but hers (not to say I shouldn't have a say...but I'm not the one carrying it). As far as another couple...that's not my say whatsoever, and really none of my business...nor should it be anyone's business but the couple. Pro-lifer's don't agree.

Late term - yes, there's a major problem there.

Abortion should NEVER be used as birth control.

I love it when men debate abortion.

Why? You don't think we have any right to talk about a decision our SO makes involving our offspring?

No, but I know I am for the crack-addicted women getting jobs, cleaning themselves up and dealing with thier problems like the rest of us.

Stupidity and lack of desire are no excuse for me having to pay for any of thier problems. Everyone hits hard times, and there needs to be a welfare system to help those who need it for a while, but not forever. A person should not be able to make a career of collecting welfare.

Question for all the anti-abortion people:

How many kids have you adopted?
How many lists are you on waiting to adopt?

Just curious.

Id like to know what it was your wife was doing right before she got sucker punched by a mysterious lady in a mink coat and bling bling W pin.

And Id like the truth. Not that anyone has ever gotten a straight answer out of you as far as i recall but hey its nice to have dreams

How about you, smartass?
Mr. High and mighty.
I actually know 3 couples waiting for babies, prick.

None.

Sorry, was just wondering if any of the people so worried about the life of a child actually step up and get their hands dirty, so to speak . . .

I have heard many people say, if you don't want your baby, leave them up for adoption.

So . . . do many pro-lifers adopt?

Oh yeah.

Go Fuck Yourself.

Incidentally, I happen to be pro-choice. If for no other reason than I had to make that decision once, and hated it, but we did go through with it, and I would hate to be a hypocrite. I have to live every day of my life knowing that I decided to kill my own child. Thant sucks. I hate it and myself for it.

and as far as fucking myself...well..ok, I called names first, so we're even now.

Ok, So I've been labeled. I'll answer.
Zero. We had considered it and still may someday, but the intrusion by the Government into our lives, incomes, criminal history, etc. would just be too much to bear.

How many have you aborted? I'd bet Zero as well.