Again....not 19 years old...but more to your point...I have NEVER said and NEVER would say that I thought we would be better off killing civilians...check the record...NEVER said it...you people just get your egos in the way and start inferring meaning into other peoples arguments...you all would make very poor lawyers....If there was a way to end the war swiftly and so severly that there was no attacks on our troups afterwards I felt that that is what we should have done...and the most straightforward way to do that I felt--and feel, is a nuclear warhead detonated in downtown Baghdad....now if you have legitimate ways to #1--decapitate the rulers of Iraq, #2--eliminate all military threats, #3--scare the shit out of the Iraqis so bad that they are on their hands and knees begging our mercy, in some other way without causing civilian casualties then I am all for it...I just dont see any other way to accomplish #1, 2, and 3 without American casualties...do you?? or all of you not willing to make to tough decisions required in the real world??