If Sean's only concern was hatred for Bush, surely he would be pleased to see the man do anything that increases his chance of a painful death.

You completely lifted that last part from Sean Hannity's radio show yesterday.

How originial.

So because of a handful of corrupt execs we change the whole structure of business in America. Is that what you are saying? That was more the fault of declining morals and ethics in America. It's not an indictment of all corporations as a whole.

Most companies are run by honest people. They are not all corrupt. As a matter of fact most Americans are employed by corporations. Many corporations have done good things for humanity. More so than any socialist government.

Only someone who is corrupt and morally bankrupt himself would think everyone else is corrupt. And yes... I would trust a corporation over some socialist government bureaucrat any day of the week. You reveal a heavy anti-capitalist slant that would indicate strong communist tendencies. Interesting how the layers peel back...

So everyone who does not support socialized medicine is a selfish puke? And you liberals never resort to name calling? Why should the government mandate for 100% of the population a need that is required for only a small percentage? Most Americans are covered through the evil corporations they work for. Why should they pay burdensome taxes to cover something they already have?

Let's hear your economic theories there Karl Marx. Please explain what the evil capitalism and benevolent big government socialism is in your view. I'm dying for your explanation.

Nice try lemsip. Sean's hatred for Bush is not to wish him death. I am convinced he wished for the war to go bad to cause him irreversible political damage. That is even worse. All the radical libs like him were hoping the same thing. Maybe even you. That's what the whole aircraft thing is about. They hate him succeeding in anything.

You're a socialist too aren't you?

Haven't listened to Hannity in a while. If he did say it more power to him.

I actually heard it on Curtis and Kuby this morning and thought it was funny. It fit the situation so I used it. You seem to like Hannity huh?

Health care coverage in Canada seems to be doing pretty well.... :rolleyes:

I wonder where Sean is employed?

GPCBiotech or Amitof Biotech how about Marine Biotech?

If you're the standard of normal by which deviancy is judged... oh hell yes, I'm a deviant!

More than a handful, and you know it. Without government regulations, corperations would get away with as much as they could.

So regulations safeguarding the public wouldn't effect them then, right?

What cereal box did you read that cheesy statement?

At least I have layers. Your hatered is right out in plain sight, along with your delusions

And you don't?



Well if it's such a small percentage, it shouldn't be an issue helping them out then, right?

The words may be too big for you to understand. If you went to a decent school, instead of learning everything you know from the internet, you'd understand the workings of other ideologies besides capitalism. By the way, you still haven't answered the question of if you served or not. Gore and Kerry signed up for their stints in Vietnam, how about yourself tough guy? I'd REALLY love to hear that you didn't serve, yet you make fun of Kerry and Gore about being deviant cowards.

Used to be, but you can't really renationalise industries, so socialism is outdated. Not too keen on big government, but the absence of big goverment leads to government by big business. At least big govermnent some degree of accountability.

No I was not in the military. You know my background. We've covered that many times before.

I never said Kerry was a coward. I said he was a liberal puke. He was also an idiot for throwing his medals away at an antiwar protest when he returned home from Vietnam.

So as usual you are not going to explain your marxist views on capitalism and the big government socialist utopia people like you want to force on the rest of us. Just more insults calling all who oppose you uneducated.

You are such a classic stereotyped liberal and you don't even know it. Or won't admit it.

EDIT: Even Lemsip says socialism sucks. He is from Europe. Socialism is killing them. You should heed his advice.

Why not?

I don't know your background . . .

If normal for you is hosting a message board with pictures of naked guys on bikes... I don't know what to say. I guess it kind of explains the color coordinated speedo outfit.

Big business is accountable to it's shareholders. Anyone can buy shares unless its a privately held company, but last time I checked, most "Big businesses" were publicly traded. At least business is restrained by laws and regulations. The government on the other hand likes to exempt itself from many of those rules. Big government is worse than big business... Big business can't throw you in jail if you resist or disagree with it's policies.

Sean, you and NY Madam seem to have such a congenial repoire. I'm sorry that Madam dragged you down the low road so soon in the thread, I would've enjoyed tearing your arguements apart.

Ohhh I love good entertainment in the afternoon.

Weren't in the military, huh? That's good to know. I'll remind you of this everytime you call a Democrate who has served in the military a coward.

Why, because he thought the Vietnam war was an unjust war that the U.S. went into with one hand tied behinds it's back? How many U.S. servicemen died in that war, over 56,000? Kerry and Gore were there, you weren't, so what the fuck do you know?

As usual? I think this is one of the first times I've brought up this subject. Are you saying that capitalism is perfect? Hate to burst your bubble, but the form of capitalism we have here in this country is not as Democratic as you think it is. Can't vote in a company if you aren't a shareholder. Another thing about capitalism, it's all about greed. Greed enough to fuck it's employees everywhich way it can (including moving jobs to Mexico), and fucking the country it does business in (offshore accounts to avoid taxes).

What does military service have to do with criticizing socialist scum. When I was 20, I was in the police academy. I have no doubt if I didn't have a good list number I probably would have went in the service for a few years. I was fed up with school.

What were you doing when you were twenty? I'm sure you were having some kind of circle jerk with your marxist frat buddies.

Yeah, I know. The war a very corrupt Democrat escalated for his own purposes.

It's not perfect but there is nothing better.

Capitalism is not democracy. The republic is. If you don't own stock in a company you have absolutely no business saying anything how it is run.

I guess in your mind the collective should make all decisions.

It's not based on greed. It's about making a success of yourself. It's about choice. It's about competition. What is socialism about? Some government choosing everything for you. Telling you how to live, limiting choice. Extending intrusive control over peoples lives.

You sound like you would be happier in the old Soviet Union. Maybe you should go to Russia. You never know, communism may come back one day. You sound ready for it. How about Red China? Can't be any greed over there right? Maybe that's your workers paradise.

"Don't you think a tailhook landing on an aircraft carrier is more risky than a helicopter landing? Did you notice that Bush LEFT in a helicopter?"

How many helicopter crashes occurred in Operation Iraqi Freedom?

Perhaps...but it wasn't a Dem who started to secretly bomb another country.

I cant find a place to rent independent films. I cant listen to non-commercial music on FM radio. I can't get independent news on terrestrial TV and if I want any kind of compatibility I have to use MS windows on my computer.

Why ? because the freedom of competition allows one company to dominate a market with their generic crap. On paper we have freedom of choice, but the absence of any control of the market means the lowest common denominator puts everyone else out of business and you are left with crap.

Obviously these are not majorly important matters, but they are examples of where freedom of choice is an illusion.

I am not suggesting a socialist state or anything, but it is funny how much xoc members like to complain about clear channel communications, when the market dominance held by that company is the epitome of free market economics and therefore the pinacle of everything American.

True. And I couldn't sum up the market as eloquently as you, or as a Floridian lyricist:

Well you can’t turn him into a company man
You can’t turn him into a whore
And the boys upstairs just don’t understand anymore
Well the top brass don’t like him talking so much
And he won’t play what they say to play
And he don’t want to change what don’t need to change
And there goes the last DJ
Who plays what he wants to play
And says what he wants to say
Hey, hey, hey
And there goes your freedom of choice
There goes the last human voice
There goes the last DJ
Well some folks say they’re gonna hang him so high
Because you just can’t do what he did
There’s some things you just can’t put in the minds of those kids
As we celebrate mediocrity all the boys upstairs want to see
How much you’ll pay for what you used to get for free
And there goes the last DJ
Who plays what he wants to play
And says what he wants to say
Hey, hey, hey
And there goes your freedom of choice
There goes the last human voice
And there goes the last DJ

(Instrumental break)

Well he got him a station down in Mexico
And sometimes it will kinda come in
And I’ll bust a move and remember how it was back then
There goes the last DJ
Who plays what he wants to play
And says what he wants to say
Hey, hey, hey
And there goes your freedom of choice
There goes the last human voice
And there goes the last DJ

You must live in the boondocks. Every blockbuster and Hollywood around here has an indie film section (as well as a foreign film section). You could also do the Netflix route.

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I cant listen to non-commercial music on FM radio.

Sure you can. Almost all colleges have them (granted, they are VERY low power.

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I can't get independent news on terrestrial TV and if I want any kind of compatibility I have to use MS windows on my computer.

That depends on what you consider "independent." Is it "independent" when it's off-beat news? Or just not corporate owned?

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Why ? because the freedom of competition allows one company to dominate a market with their generic crap. On paper we have freedom of choice, but the absence of any control of the market means the lowest common denominator puts everyone else out of business and you are left with crap.

Where you live has a big bearing on that. Here in DC, there are choices. Out in Winchester, VA, there aren't.

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Obviously these are not majorly important matters, but they are examples of where freedom of choice is an illusion.

I am not suggesting a socialist state or anything, but it is funny how much xoc members like to complain about clear channel communications, when the market dominance held by that company is the epitome of free market economics and therefore the pinacle of everything American.

It's just a matter of searching it out. And to me, Clear Channel is on the verge of something that should be broken up. 1200 stations in all fifty states, covering over 50% of the audience (this used to be illegal).

Try here, at least on the computer.

Cool modern rock station from Atlantic City

Don't try to deflect the issue now, you've called many a Democrate here a deviant liberal coward. Gore or Kerry have done more in their lives than you ever will do.

Fed up with school because you couldn't hack it, or that you couldn't handle the other ideologies this diverse world of our's has to offer.

I was learning how to use big words, you know ones with more than 6 letters. Better to be at a university actually learning something and planning your future, than to be pissing into gas tanks with your drunk friends.

I beg to differ. If the environment is adversely affected or taxes aren't paid, this effects EVERYONE in the community (Higher instances of sickness, or lowered revenue for schools, policemen and firemen).

There's those words again, you know, the ones you base all your arguments on: "I guess". You don't know jack when it comes to others, all you know is "Madmans World", a world of paranoia and hate.

It's like listening to a dam commerical for big business, WAKE UP. Have you ever worked at a large company before, I've worked at two, what the hell do you know about the inner workings of a large company? There's many "company people" out there working their asses off just to get by, and would love to go to school to better themselves, but can't afford to. Yet you were "fed up" with it, please. Sounds like you're very lucky financially to be where you are, not everyone without a college degree gets a fat state pension with benefits like you do. You sound like an ungrateful selfish prick to me.

Ah...nevermind, just go back to the soap opera that is your life.

:rolleyes:

Why look... It's Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy in a custom made flight suit shortly after he took a flight on an F-16. Hmmm. I think there should be an investigation. He's wasting taxpayer money. Where the hell is that hypocritical bitch Maxine Waters?

Everybody and their grandmother has flown in an F-16 (republicans and Democrates alike). Besides, F-16's don't land on aircraft carriers, F-18's do.

The point is, it is a Democrat dressed in 'the uniform of a warrior'. :rolleyes: