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#211727 - 08/05/03 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by mbflyerfan:
Plus I'll bet that these sailors would rather it have been out at sea then at the docks where they want to see thier families and could care less about this Politician keeping them from it. Ill bet that was a factor in the decision as well. I definitly agree about the wanting to see their families part. While the aircraft carrier was at sea, Bush had himself a captive audience. If I were at sea for that long, the first thing I'd want to see is my family, not a glory hound President looking for a photo op. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I feel that there should NOT have been as much upstaging from Bush and his stupid stunt, instead he should have just focused purely on praising the brave troops who did such a great job.
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#211728 - 08/05/03 08:43 AM
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"The White House initially said the carrier was too far out at sea to use a helicopter. Tuesday, Fleischer acknowledged that the ship was close enough." "Yes, Mr. President. We believe the carrier is close enough for you to land. There is a chance we can make it by helicopter."
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#211729 - 08/05/03 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by Andre the Giant:
Bush has got the Dems in a panic. He has outSMARTED the Dems at every turn. YES, he outsmarted the very people who claim he's a dolt. What does that tell you? That Cheney definitly IS calling the shots.
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#211730 - 08/05/03 08:47 AM
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Funny nobody complained when Clinton was doing his "World Tour" at the end of his administration.
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#211731 - 08/05/03 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by JoeyS:
Funny nobody complained when Clinton was doing his "World Tour" at the end of his administration. What does this have to do with the President landing on an aircraft carrier? How does Clinton even factor into this thread? Jeez, you conseratives can't dump the baggage and just can't let it go can you? Clinton has not been President for years now, get over it. :rolleyes:
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#211732 - 08/05/03 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by Sean:
Why am I not suprised by your xenophobic and racist remarks? What's wrong with trying to save the millions of people in Africa? Should we just sit back and watch the Pope just tell them to abstain? Actually, I'm suprised Bush is even attempting this, definitly something you don't hear about coming from republican's. What the hell is so racist and xenophobic about what I said? Is that all you sleazy socialists can say when someone speaks the truth? A little abstention and self control over there would go a long way in solving their problems. Not the money of hard working American taxpayers to line the pockets of corrupt bureaucrats and dictators. But wait, I forgot... there isn't a deviant or rapist that you people don't support. You are the one who brought your hero Clinton into the mix or did you miss where I quoted you? You liberal slime complaining about Bush landing on the carrier really shows how desperate you are for any issue to complain about. Are you that jealous? Could it be that you Dems have a bunch of pussies running for the job now who don't have a chance in hell? All you slime hate the military and you hate the fact that we have a president who the military likes. The military would have been happy to shoot the last president themselves. Liberal slime like you are just pissed that Bush was right. You wanted the war to go bad so you could rub your dirty tampons in everyones face until the next election. The story below could have been written by you. It fits you to a tee. Both of you are whining little bitches who hate George Bush. http://www.opinion.telegraph.co.uk/opini.../ixopinion.html
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#211733 - 08/05/03 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by NY Madman:
What the hell is so racist and xenophobic about what I said? Is that all you sleazy socialists can say when someone speaks the truth? A little abstention and self control over there would go a long way in solving their problems. Not the money of hard working American taxpayers to line the pockets of corrupt bureaucrats and dictators. But wait, I forgot... there isn't a deviant or rapist that you people don't support. You call this statement truth? You only know conservative propaganda and hate, hate for anyone who thinks outside the box. You are the one who brought your hero Clinton into the mix or did you miss where I quoted you? No that was mbflyerfan who first brought up Clinton, not me. Are you wearing your bifocals today? You liberal slime complaining about Bush landing on the carrier really shows how desperate you are for any issue to complain about. Are you that jealous? Could it be that you Dems have a bunch of pussies running for the job now who don't have a chance in hell? All you slime hate the military and you hate the fact that we have a president who the military likes. The military would have been happy to shoot the last president themselves. I just love how you keep calling me a Democrate, your memory's not too good is it? I've wrote many times that I'm a registered Independant...HELLO! Liberal slime like you are just pissed that Bush was right. You wanted the war to go bad so you could rub your dirty tampons in everyones face until the next election. You're reading WAY too much from this thread. And I see since you have no good arguments to defend your hero from this latest incident, you just resort to name calling; classic Madman retort. The story below could have been written by you. It fits you to a tee. Both of you are whining little bitches who hate George Bush. You are right about my hatered of George W, congrats on getting one right.
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#211734 - 08/05/03 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Sean:
I just love how you keep calling me a Democrate, your memory's not too good is it? I've wrote many times that I'm a registered Independant...HELLO!
Now that's bullshit. I don't care what you are registered as... you tow the Democratic Party line on every single issue. You spit out more of their propaganda then Terry McAuliffe. Even Ted Kennedy would be proud. It's actually sad that you think you are some kind of free thinker or whatever you call it but you just spit out the usual liberal crap on every single issue...every time. Your hatred for Bush is well documented. In fact it is so deep rooted and seething that you refuse to acknowledge anything good this administration has done. Tell the truth... You really wanted the war in Iraq to go bad just to have more to complain about. I think this is true .. and that's really fucked up.
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#211735 - 08/05/03 09:45 AM
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Sean, did you ever serve? I can't remember. I know that when I did, pretty much every soldier I knew, would have loved to see our commander doing the types of jobs that we did... You know the dirty work, grunt work etc... Bush may have taken this opportunity to do a "photo op" but he also honored those men, by showing them that their President was a skilled and accomplished pilot just like a lot of them.... It is a major morale boost to see your leader doing your job.....
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#211736 - 08/05/03 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Samueul:
Sean, did you ever serve? I can't remember. I think you know the answer to that. A guy who is as scared of guns and uniforms as him. Can you picture him with a weapon in his hand? The only magazine he could change is replacing the batteries in his vibrator.
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#211737 - 08/05/03 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by NY Madman:
Now that's bullshit. I don't care what you are registered as... you tow the Democratic Party line on every single issue. You spit out more of their propaganda then Terry McAuliffe. Even Ted Kennedy would be proud. No I don't tow the Democratic Party line, I just hate republican exstremists. The funny thing is if you acutally left fantasy land for once, and read my posts, you would have read statements like: I am for the death penalty I am anti-drug I am for marrage I love this country, and hate communism It's actually sad that you think you are some kind of free thinker or whatever you call it but you just spit out the usual liberal crap on every single issue...every time. You bet your ass I'm a free thinker, I question EVERYONE before I pick a side, and I don't trust too many people. Your hatred for Bush is well documented. In fact it is so deep rooted and seething that you refuse to acknowledge anything good this administration has done. Still waiting for the good. All I've seen so far is a man with his hands tied by the Christian Coalition hell bent on reversing Wade vs Roe, an economy still in the dumps, no WMD, and lot's of Democratic bashing. SHOW ME THE MONEY! Tell the truth... You really wanted the war in Iraq to go bad just to have more to complain about. I think this is true .. and that's really fucked up. No I'll tell you what's really fucked up. What's really fucked up is how you pull slanderous remarks like these out of your ass. I have never made statements like that, and by making these false accusations, you only prove the case that you don't have all your oars in the water. :rolleyes:
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#211738 - 08/05/03 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by NY Madman: Your hatred for Bush is well documented. Do you have any clue what "well documented" means? Apparently not. At best you could inaccurately infer that Sean hates President Bush based on posts scattered across this internet BB. I hate to shock you, but outside of your little world, that doesn't mean: "well documented." Is it true? Is ignorance really bliss? I figure if there's anyone in the world who knows the answer to that question, it's you.
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#211739 - 08/05/03 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by NY Madman: Originally posted by Samueul:
Sean, did you ever serve? I can't remember. I think you know the answer to that. A guy who is as scared of guns and uniforms as him.
Can you picture him with a weapon in his hand? The only magazine he could change is replacing the batteries in his vibrator.Yoo hoo, Madman, down here, F-O-C-U-S now. Again, I've never stated that I was against guns. I am FOR gun control, and against military weapons in the hands of average citizens. The statement about uniforms, well I have no clue where the fuck that came from (madmans world maybe). I'll tell you though, your remark about the vibrator, your the expert in that area since you prefer the company of men. Samueul, No I've never served. The closest I ever got was registering for selective service when I was 18. Madman, Does not serving in the military, or not owning a hand gun (I was on the rifle team in high school) make a person less of a man?
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#211740 - 08/05/03 10:27 AM
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Well, the cost of operating the jet he flew in on is apparently $7 an hour more than the chopper. What a giant waste of money. :rolleyes:
Democrats bitching about wasting taxpayers money is the pot calling the kettle black. That is all they ever do.
Clinton made a little trip after Bosnia to a carrier. His aides stole every trinket off of the ship they could get their hands on. He made that ship be delayed, and it caused them to have to sail through a giant storm, that ended up causing millions of dollars of damage to the ships. Some of them were in dry dock for repairs in Europe for months. This is a desperate attempt to make the President look bad, and to most of us, it looks pretty stupid.
Here is another subject for the liberals to chew on. Berkley is refusing to admit any new Asian students in because of SARS. They say it is to expensive to screen them, and they are not sure if they can anyway. So they are just not going to admit them. Wow! That sounds just like the racial profiling conservatives wanted after 911. The liberals comdemned it as racist. Just an example of liberal hypocrasy.
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#211741 - 08/05/03 10:35 AM
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Gotta side with my Texas brother on the Berzekley statement. I live up there for a while and hated those tree huggin, utopians.
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#211742 - 08/05/03 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by ILUVMYX:
Do you have any clue what "well documented" means? Apparently not. I got news for you Captain Literal ... By his numerous posts ranting against Bush on this board my use of the term "well documented" was correct in the context in which it was used. Now you are an English major or something? I think you need some courses in English. These college Spanish courses are clouding your brain. Go back to your tricycle board.
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#211743 - 08/05/03 10:57 AM
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Piloting an aircraft, of any kind, is a kick in the pants. If I was Bush, I'd fly every fucking chance I could get. I wonder who he has to supply with drugs to get a chance to fly Air Force One? One of these days, I'll finish my private license . . .
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#211744 - 08/05/03 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by Sean:
No I don't tow the Democratic Party line, I just hate republican exstremists. The funny thing is if you acutally left fantasy land for once, and read my posts, you would have read statements like:
I am for the death penalty
I am anti-drug
I am for marrage I read your posts. I know you are for the death penalty. In fact you love to kill people. Especially when they are helpless and still in the womb. As for marraige.. I know you support that. Two men or two woman... hey let's even let them adopt some kids! I love this country, and hate communism You do a lot of complaining about the country for a guy who loves it. I'm not so sure you hate communism. This is suspect. You have definitely voiced support for many socialist type ideals and programs. You bet your ass I'm a free thinker Like I said you tow the standard Democratic platform on almost every issue. The problem is you don't see it. The death penalty for adults as you claim is the only deviation from the platform. Still waiting for the good. All I've seen so far is a man with his hands tied by the Christian Coalition hell bent on reversing Wade vs Roe, an economy still in the dumps, no WMD, and lot's of Democratic bashing. SHOW ME THE MONEY! And you claim you don't tow the liberal line with that last statement? God help we have a leader who is not an atheist. So Bush has done nothing good. What about the war on terror? What about the thousands of terrorists arrested and cells shut down? What about all the charities and organizations with assets frozen and shut down? What about destroying two terrorist supporting regimes? This admin has done a lot more than any scum sucking liberal you support would ever do. WMD's... The war is only over 3 weeks. How much fucking time do you liberals give them? What would be satisfactory to you? You sound like a cry baby who needs instant gratification. All you liberals were screaming "give the inspectors more time" "give the UN another 6 months"... That's all we heard leading up to the war. Now the war is over a few weeks and you cry babies are demanding WMD's already. That is beyond fucked up. Fuck You. You are no patriot. You would put your political ideals before the good of this country any day. I stand by my statement. People like you were hoping the war would go bad and a lot of soldiers would die just so the president would look bad. All because you don't like him.
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#211745 - 08/05/03 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by Sean: Seems our President has stirred up a little controversy again. A lot of people (including republicans) are questioning Bush's latest stunt of the tailhook jet landing on the USS Abraham Lincoln. Not only was it deemed "risky", but it seems it potentionally delayed the arrival of the aircraft carrier, and cost a whole bunch of extra money.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-05-07-bush-landing_x.htm
Now I have no problem with the President visiting troops and congratulating them on the great job they did, but one has to wonder about this blatant photo op. What was especially troublesome was the initial cover up for this publicity stunt:
"The White House initially said the carrier was too far out at sea to use a helicopter. Tuesday, Fleischer acknowledged that the ship was close enough."
:rolleyes: The story is......this is a story? Liberal media! ...what a joke. Tailhook landing........HELL YEAH! Late? I knew a week before the carrier was in San Diego what time it would be here and when he would be here....I was bummed, cuz I had to work. Not late at all. The troops on the ship were thrilled (from the FIRST HAND discussions I've had and heard) Hell yeah its a photo op....and a well earned one at that. Your "news" source seems like the crying whinning idiots that they are. Why not e-mail the source and tell them to do some real reporting. I mean they actually took the time to PRINT that they thought the heli was too far out and in reality it was not? I'm sure there are things in the world way more important than that space filling waste of ink and paper (you environmentalists should jump all over the paper for that....the trees that gave their lives for a non-statement?)
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#211746 - 08/05/03 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by NY Madman: Now you are an English major or something? I think you need some courses in English. Really? What's wrong with my English? This should be good coming from the Hooked on Phonics poster boy.
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#211747 - 08/05/03 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by ILUVMYX:
Really? What's wrong with my English? This should be good coming from the Hooked on Phonics poster boy. Is that the best you can do? Do you have anything to add to Sean's liberal rant thread claiming Bush is a glory hound .. or as usual did you just pop in to check the grammar and do spell checks? Go back to your tricycle board. I think someone is posting a question about fish oil supplements or something. By the way... WTF kind of board are you running over there? You're a friggin DEVIANT! http://www.feedforspeed.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=161&s=6f36cf3bb0d54b 6299dace5167cbbc9a
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#211748 - 08/05/03 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by NY Madman:
You do a lot of complaining about the country for a guy who loves it. It's my right, isn't it? I'm not so sure you hate communism. This is suspect. You have definitely voiced support for many socialist type ideals and programs. Like what, gun control, curbs on big business (can you say Enron, Cheney can), improving the public school system instead of vouchers? What's wrong with these? God help we have a leader who is not an atheist. I bet you don't see the humor in this statement... So Bush has done nothing good. What about the war on terror? What about the thousands of terrorists arrested and cells shut down? What about all the charities and organizations with assets frozen and shut down? What about destroying two terrorist supporting regimes? This admin has done a lot more than any scum sucking liberal you support would ever do. You conservatives with your same lame argument that if Gore was elected (not appointed like Bush), none of these anti-terrorist plans would have gone through, BULLSHIT. No President would have sat on their ass and done nothing after 9/11. YOU HAVE NO PROOF! WMD's... The war is only over 3 weeks. How much fucking time do you liberals give them? What would be satisfactory to you? You sound like a cry baby who needs instant gratification. It's been closer to 4 weeks now, and still nothing. It's great and all that Sadaam is gone, and Iraq can start a new, but the main reason the U.S. had for starting this war was WMD and it's threat to America. The military took Bagdad in 16 day's, where's the threat to America in that? I hope we do find WMD for the sake of the 138 servicemen that died for the cause. Fuck You. You are no patriot. You would put your political ideals before the good of this country any day. I stand by my statement. People like you were hoping the war would go bad and a lot of soldiers would die just so the president would look bad. All because you don't like him. Now this is where you lost me. No patriot? Wanting U.S. soldiers do die so Bush looks bad? You ARE a fucking loon aren't you. Stop waving the flag everytime you post, because your not very good at it; all you can do is blindly hide behind it. :rolleyes:
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#211749 - 08/05/03 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by Sean:
Like what, gun control, curbs on big business, improving the public school system instead of vouchers? What's wrong with these? You just described a step closer to socialism. We need less gun control. We don't need government strangling big business. We need the government to back out of the public education business. It's not working and it's a black hole money pit. You want big government controlling everything don't you? You forgot to mention universal healthcare. Big government in control is socialism. Limited government and free market is capitalism. Capitalism is the only way for all individuals to have the oppurtunity to thrive and succeed. And yes... Al Gore would not have done a miniscule fraction of what Bush has done in the war on terror. Neither would any of the pukes running for president on the Dem side and you know it. The charities and terrorist cells would still be in business. Who knows.. Al Gore in his liberal madness would have required all federal employees to buy a copy of the Koran. That's how fucked up the liberals are. Can't profile or offend anyone... even if they want to kill us.
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#211750 - 08/05/03 12:28 PM
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(not appointed like Bush) Uh, Bush was elected just like every other president this great nation has had, by winning the electoral college. Sad news for the libs though, there could be a clean sweep in '02.
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#211751 - 08/05/03 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by NY Madman:
We need less gun control. Like we need another Columbine or a D.C. sniper. Nothing wrong with 100% traceability, we already have it for other dangerous products We don't need government strangling big business. We need the government to back out of the public education business. It's not working and it's a black hole money pit. Can you say Enron or WorldCom? You're more of an idiot than I thought if you put your full trust in the CEO's of this country You want big government controlling everything don't you? You forgot to mention universal healthcare. I hope someday you're on the receiving end of having no health coverage (like the other 8 million Americans), and see how you like it. You're a selfish puke Big government in control is socialism. Limited government and free market is capitalism. Capitalism is the only way for all individuals to have the oppurtunity to thrive and succeed. You really believe this, don't you? Perhaps if you went on to Jr. college after receiving your GED you would have learned a thing or two about economics And yes... Al Gore would not have done a miniscule fraction of what Bush has done in the war on terror. Neither would any of the pukes running for president on the Dem side and you know it. The charities and terrorist cells would still be in business. Who knows.. Al Gore in his liberal madness would have required all federal employees to buy a copy of the Koran. That's how fucked up the liberals are. Can't profile or offend anyone... even if they want to kill us. Back in fantasy land, huh? Kerry served, and so did Gore, did you?
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