Eh.

I read it over a couple times, and wasn't very happy with it. Rather than rewrite, I thought I could back it out without anyone seeing it.

I guess it's not that bad.

Hey! Who's moderating this stoopid forum? Go ahead and restore my post, please . . .

Hardly. There has been a lot of stupid shit said in this thread, but I wouldn't rank that post among them. At least you had an idea, which is saying a lot more than what some people have offered in this thread ....

Anyone catch the info about someone in Lebanon complaining about Israel using phosporus which BTW is not against any rules of war.

Now on the other hand the Hezbo's fill there Douchbag rockets full of ball bearings to inflict as much collateral damage as possible as well as fight from inside civilian occopied areas...BOTH big no-no's as agreed upon by the civilized world.

I also heard Newt Gingrich speaking about the 2000+ UN troops that have been in the south of Lebanon since the Israel occupation ended and these troops did nothing to stop the Hezbo's or enforce the UN mandate to disarm the Hezbo's.

I don't have an agenda here. I'm just concerned of the civillian deaths on both sides.

I graduated from The University of British Columbia and while there the few odd ball groups protesting Israel's occupation of Gaza and thew West Bank, they were just that: Odd Ball groups.

Or he did actually write it. Right? Now if you know for a fact that he didn't then I'll agree with you.

No I don't think we should dimish the possibility. I think peace can be achievable even in this age and in this region. Through more intense negotiation and addressing greivances and concerns on both sides we can achieve it. I'm an incurable optimist.

I'm aware of that. But you must also be aware that you label these people as terrorists and others label them as freedom fighters. It all depends on what side of the issue you support.

I think SE4X4 has said it best:

I am concerned about that. And nothing good is coming out this. I'm hoping there will be peace. And I know it seems to be a pipe dream. Dare to dream, though.

OK since you guys don't like my Hitler quotes how about one from the other side of the coin.

The realization that another person wishes to harm and hurt you cannot undermine genuine compassion—a compassion based on the clear recognition of that person as someone who has the natural and instinctual desire to seek happiness and overcome suffering, just like oneself.

-His Holiness the Dalai Lama

Quote:

Originally posted by AV Xterra:
OK guys Lebanon and Is"real" are getting really close to catching this thread. Their tactic is to use really big pictures and reply with lots of large quotes, sometimes they break the quote in pieces and reply to each segment separately. I think they're cheating.

Okay, guys, the gauntlet has been thrown down by our friends over in the "Gone But Not Forgotten" thread. Time to pick it up a notch.

How many Canadians does it take to create lasting world peace? Discuss......

Fuck Isreal, they stole the Palestinians land and should get run out.

Time for the Crusades - the sequel.

You are absolutely correct. UN forces (UNIFIL)have been in Southern Lebanon for many years. They have been in Lebanon since UNIFIL was created in 1978.

UN forces have observed the buildup of Hezbollah in Lebananon. They were fully aware of the construction of the bunkers Hezbollah has built all around S. Lebanon. The UN forces were fully aware of the arms buildup of Hezbollah. Did they share this information with Israel? No they did not. The UN was supposed to be there to prevent Hezbollah's presence in S. Lebanon.

Some UN facts....

Here is a picture of a UN outpost in S. Lebanon. Supposedly the one that was hit with a bomb. The Hezbollah flag flies right next to the UN flag (notice the Hezbollah flag flies in a superior position to that of the UN flag). Early reports stated a Hezbollah mortar fired on the UN position. The story was quickly changed.



A picture is worth a thousand words.

The UN aids and abets the Hezbollah terrorist organization. Why does the corrupt Kofi Anann meet with the terrorist Nasrallah? Hezbollah is not a country. It's not a state. It's a terrorist organization with one goal... the destruction of a member state of the UN.



Again, a picture is worth a thousand words. The corrupt leader of the UN shaking hands and hobknobbing with one of the world's most notorious terrorists.

Kofi Anan cries when an Israeli bomb lands on a UN outpost. His hatred of Israel and support for terrorists keeps him from telling the entire story, regardless of the fact that UNIFIL press releases say otherwise.

http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/pr04.pdf
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/pr08.pdf
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/pr09.pdf
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/missions/unifil/pr010.pdf

Anann ignores that Hezbollah is firing from positions right next to UN outposts. He also fails to complain about Hezbollah mortars landing on UN positions...

The mainstream press is also ignoring these facts.

The NY Sun reports on a Canadian soldiers observation of the warzone....

http://www.nysun.com/article/36860

The UN has already been caught letting Palestinian terrorists use their ambulances to transport men and arms.

The UN needs to get out of the warzone. They are a problem. They already allowed a terrorist army to buildup men and arms and fly their flag next to theirs. With the removal of the UN from S. Lebanon we can then eliminate the UN as collaborators with Hezbollah.

Great post man. That sums up the UN situation well. I have only heard a couple of tidbits about it. Thanks.

Don't forget because of the bombing of the UN compound, this is the first open reports we are hearing about the Chinese being present in the war zone.

The Chinese are there to spy and evaluate the weaponry being used.

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=2986

Could it be that Americans are sheep who's thoughts and opinions are molded by their Government who really is run by Halliburton and all the other arms manufactures?. The quest to become the modern times new Roman Empire is neatly wrapped in words like "Freedom", "Democracy" and Axis of Evil when in fact your 900 billion defence budget is just padding the pocket of your so call "Social Elite" while your countrymen are sacrificing their lives for a cause we all know is now the new Vietman that will end in a rightious pull out of Iraq with everyone declaring victory...

Just a thought....discuss

Obviously 'thought' was something that did not occur within you prior to your posting of that tripe.

There was a time when you occasionally posted rational and intelligent posts. I guess times have changed.

. . . or he could be bored and posting an obviously inflammatory line of crap designed to push a button and elicit a response . . .

No thanks. You're right. We're all sheep. None of us follow current events or politics. We just wait for our next brainwashing installment. You nailed it.

A few things happened:

I watched "why we fight"
I watched my buddy on the front page of the National post carry his soldiers coffin in Afghanistan
I watch Children writing messages on Bombs who kill other children
I see the great quest for the liberation of Iraq going nowhere
I see people dying of starvation in 3rd world countries for centuries, yet no one gives a flying fuck.

The world is becoming one big pyle of shit. positive progress is nowhere.....

Take a side, Lebanon (Hezbollah) or Israel I can guarantee you none of them are squeaky clean, the losers in all this, Civilians innocent people who are trapped, makes me fucking sick.

The thought crossed my mind, but I'm not familiar enough with his views.... I actually generally find him intelligent.

Give him a couple more posts.

Maybe he was sincere, based on his last post to Madman.

But he's never shied away from flamewars, and inciting them. So I wonder . . .

That thought did cross my mind.

But I'm also aware of his politics and his tendency towards moonbattery.

As was previously mentioned in this thread... he's one of the "Canadians".

Serious as a heart attack. I am not taking sides with anyone in this just saying the fucking senseless waste of human life and cash has got to stop. I am dumbfounded that American's still applaude what is going on, while their government is digging a hole for their future that will impact life for each of you for years to come.

do not get me wrong. I would love for Iraq, afghanistan,Israel Lebanon and all the other armpit countries to be green pastures with humming birds and big titted flower girls but it ain;t going to happen, not by force not by anymeans. So why are we (I say we as my fellow countrymen are in it too) wasting resources ?.

Hey Madman,

Give me your prediction to the outcome of:

The current shit in Israel
The current shit in Iraq
The Current shit in Afghanistan

I will save your reply and open it again in 8 years, then look you up and buy you a hooker and a steak dinner if ANY of your predictions came through....

This is a whole issue unto itself. Read these:

Article 1

Article 2

That right there is part of your problem.

By not taking sides, you are either displaying ignorance of the facts of the conflict or you are supporting and legitimizing the terrorist organization Hezbollah.

Maybe it's a Canadian thing.

You know Claus, in a perfect world I wish that we (or any other Western colonial power) never stepped foot in the Mid East. Westerners have a long history of sticking their dicks where they don't belong.
The current situation with international terrorism and radical Islam require some sort of action, however.
I'm a personal pacifist, but I'm pragmatic enough to understand that this shit isn't just going to go away if you close your eyes and hum a happy tune to yourself.

We are 'wasting' resources, because they want to kill us all. They have made it very plain. If you are not an Islamofacist they want you to die. It is just like the Crusades all over again. They started it, and the West finished it. Unfortunately we are to pussy to do what it takes to punish them enough so they give up for another 1,000 years.

Go read Zawahiri's comments on this new tape, and come back to us with the same attitude.