Hate to burst your bubble:

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As for paying tax every year on one's vehicle, many states have this tax. In Mass it's called "excise tax" (which get's lower as the vehicle ages), in other states (R.I. comes to mind) it's called "property tax".

37 states, to be exact. (Sorry...it was in USAToday the other day)

That's fair. I don't listen or watch any of those shows... they don't talk about sports. And it's not like it's not welcome here, but I would like to read something that has some credible evidence to it. Not just conspiracy theories. I haven't seen a fellow conservative post anything like that... or maybe I just didn't bother to read it.

Guess you just didn't bother to read it - nearly anything that tries to put forth some Clinton-Murder conspiracy. (There's a whole thread on that, ya know. :p )

I guess Rush Limbaugh being a big fat idiot on
ESPN's Sunday NFL Pre-game show doesn't count in your mind? Same Limbaugh shit, different venue.

"Sorry to say this, I don't think he's (McNabb) been that good from the get-go," Limbaugh said in unscripted remarks. "I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well, black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team." - Rush Limbaugh.

You better catch him on ESPN while you can.
The story.

Rush is today\'s political football.

Damn you went to school in Shawnee Oklahoma. Bet they loved your views there

Politicians should never be on sports shows.. period. Politics have ruined most sports and are slowing bringing others down.

Rush isn't a politician. He is just an idiot with a talk show. Every once in a while he has a good point but he is an overstater just like Savage. Actually Savage is just a dumb ass hater generally.

Ohhhh yeah...I was Mr. Popularity on campus. When you get letters to the editor saying "I'm coming to your dorm room and stuffing my fist through your commie throat..." yeah, that's always a nice thing to read.

Isn't Limbaugh right on the money about McNabb? If McNabb were white all the sports writers would be critical of him.

The reverse racism in the NFL today is reaching a fever pitch. Huge league fines for not interviewing or considering a black coach. WTF is that shit all about? It's racism clear and simple. Fuck whitey....

McNabb is no Randall Cunningham no matter how much the media wants him to be. I would say the praise lobbed on him is an example of media bias and Rush called it for exactly what it is.

Yeah.. I knew that from your posts. I would actually say you are a communist. You have a deep seated hatred for capitalism. However I bet you have material things and a bank account. You have an X don't you? Why aren't you living in a commune or something if you hate capitalism so much? I bet you have a big screen TV and a full entertainmnet center. A nice home. Damn... yeah capitalism does suck doesn't it.

You also have a deep seated hatred for America.

By the way ... Allende was not a democtratic socialist. He was a communist. Nice try on the spin.

You should at least put everything he said...
(Note - the "if it worked" and "there has to be a balance.")

"That's right. I would call myself a socialist. I think it would be THE perfect way to govern...if it WORKED, but it CAN'T so we have to find some other way. But capitolism ain't it. Look at what's happening. All of these big businesses that you conservatives are trying to protect are sending jobs to Mexico. The tax cut is a joke. (Could I ask you something? If you take a paycut, can you go out and buy a big screen tv? That's exactly what Bush is doing right now. Three tax cuts in two years, and he's raising spending on everything else...that's called a DEFICIT and we'll never be able to pay it off.) There are 43 Million people in the US that don't currently have health insurance.
Capitolism boils down to class warfare. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. The idea that hard work will let you advance in the world is a joke. That kind of mentality hasn't worked since the fifties. Maybe you should move into the 21st century. (And don't give me that "Well, communism fell in the 20th Century bs." I SAID there has to be a balance.)

NY MADMAN:

Agreed 100% on the ridiculous $200,000 fine levied on the Lions for hiring their hometown boy. Hell, they even tried to bring in interviewees, but it was clear Mooch was a hot commodity destined for Detroit. The NFL dropped the ball on that one.

To address your other point: All the sports writers are critical of McNabb. And have been since mid-September. They just don't say he's in that position due to the color of his skin. Rush provided an incredibly shallow and misguided analysis of McNabb's status. As an aside, I wonder if Limbaugh lost weight due to Franken's book?
Al...helping out wherever he can.

You're right, McNabb is no Randall Cunningham. He's better. And he's shown that -- guiding the Eagles to back to back appearances in the NFC Championship. (err, just the D did it) Randall went to three Pro Bowls, McNabb has 3 in a row under his belt (but I'm sure it's the biased media).

I will say this. Donovan is not playing to his potential. It may be skittishness on his part to leave the pocket after the ankle last year, it may be Reid's system and it may be the pedestrian receivers. Hell, it might be the damn Campbell's Chunky Soup ad he did. But bottom line, he's not in that role on the basis of his skin color.

I didn't because he knows communism and socialism don't work. It has been proven and is still being proved.

Besides Moby.... You do that to me all the time. Most people here do.

Typical liberal hype...why is it you people dislike and try to ruin anyone who speaks their mind and uses the 1st admendment the way it was intended to be used? Rush speaks his mind. He believes he is honest. Just because you don't agree with him, you attack him.

It's not just the NFL.... it's everywhere! I was listening to the radio this morning, local talk show, and someone called in where he had an academic scholarship to some college only to find out it was taken away because they realized he was white, not black like they originally thought. Yeah, that's fair. I got an idea, give it to the guy that deserves it and not base it on their skin color.

I just figured you ignored the rest of it because it was typical assinine libbie horse shit.

The American Dream is alive and well my commie friend. I have worked for the same company for 6 years now. I started sweeping the parking lot, and now I am a software developer. My salary has more than tripled in that relatively short time period. If you aren't a lazy ass, and work hard anyone can do the same thing in this country.

On to Allende. He was democratically elected by a minority. The revolution was going to happen and the CIA just kind of helped it along. I saw an interesting documentary the other day specifically about the revolution. Even the leftists on there said the country was better off now than it would have been under Allende. Pinochet was a jackass to be sure, but he did well for the economy of his country. This link explains this pretty well.

http://val.dorta.com/archives/000343.html

Damn this thread is covering it all.

I never said McNabb was bad. He's definitely not on top of his game this year. (I do think there always was more hype than substance regarding him). I'm just saying that Rush probably had a point in what he said. Michael Irvin even said he had a point. He probably shouldn't have said it on TV with all the uptight political correctness today... but he did. Everyone loves to scream racism these days.

Look at an example of the flip side of the coin. Jets QB Vinny Testeverde is catching a lot of shit from some of our local sports writers (not all). Believe me, Vinny is not the Jets problem. I think coach Edwards deserves a little more criticism than he is getting... but then again Edwards is black.

I think when Randall was McNabb's age he was better. I don't think McNabb should have been thrown a 12 year contract extension? No professional athlete should ever have long contracts like that. Owners never learn.

I don't think that any politician of any party is immune to most of this. Its what ther do.

I lean more to the left on social issues and right on fiscal ones. I believe that the WMD's or the development programs were there but Saddam had a year and a half since 9/11 to clean things up, relocate this lab, sell of that vial, smuggle peole and equipment off to Libya, Syria, Iran or whereever. He may be a paranoid, eogcentric self-important all around SOB but stupid, no.

And it's typical conservative behavior to not explain WHY it's typical assinine libbie horse shit. Just like Franken's claims. I have said it before - I don't doubt he is spinning, BUT I have yet to see a conservative explain away each of his claims. It's always, "Oh, he's lying" or "it was typical assinine libbie horse shit."

The only issue they latch on to is the Harvard letterhead - which he already acknowledged and apologized for...which I can't say for O'Reilly's false claim about the Polk award, nor any of Coulter's ramblings, nor any of Hannity's spewing.

First-You could at least print everything I said. (Thanks for backing me up, Moby.)

Second-I do not have a deep seeded hatred for capitalism. I have a deep seeded hatred for conservatives who take away any means of help for the poor and tell them to "get a job." Sometimes that's just not possible. Have you ever had to stand in an unemployment line? It's not a party down there. Those people aren't happy to be sucking off of the government's tit. They've been forced to, because there's no other way. You conservatives make it sound like everyone on unemployment and disability are cheating this "socialist" system. Need I remind you of the capitalists at Enron and Worldcom that destroyed more lives than al-Quaeda, all in the name of capitalism?

Third-Jesus was a socialist. How does that float your boat?

Fourth-Who cares what Allende was? His government was working, and his countrymen loved him. The fear of the "Communist Threat" destroyed what WAS a working socialist system.

Fifth- I, in no way, have a deep seated hatred for America. But I DO sense that you have a deep seated hatred for anyone that does not agree with you. That is sad to me, because you obviously are an intelligent person. You are just misguided, and put your fingers in your ears so you can't hear an intelligent counter-argument. Your last desperate act when you're losing an argument is to call someone un-American. What a typical conservative tactic.

Wil, I am going to start another religious debate...but please explain to me how Jesus was a Socialist.

People who collect unemployment get it because it is their right. Their employers paid the state a percentage of their salaries for that insurance. But it doesn't last forever and it shouldn't.

You failed to mention welfare recipients. Most are deatbeats who never look for a job. Taxpayers pay the cost of housing and healthcare for them. The taxpayers today are even paying the healthcare costs for illegals and such. All this is wrong and should never happen. You are a communist/socialist and believe in redistribution of wealth through confiscatory taxation. That is wrong. That is not what America is all about and certainly is not how we became the world's financial leader. Everyone should stand on their own feet. In America that is more than possible if you are not lazy. Any type of government assistance should only be a short term temporary measure. Not the family business like it is all over America's inner cities. Illegal immigrants shouldn't even be here so they should get nothing from the taxpayers. Maybe we might have more money for the deserving Americans on disability.

Enron and Worldcom never killed anyone or strapped bomb belts to their waists. Comparing them to terrorists is pure leftist idiocy and bullshit. These companies are a poor example of capitalism. They are examples of corrupt individuals. There are tens of thousands of businesses and thousands of public corporations in America that are honest and run by honest people. Their are corrupt individuals in all types of economic and political systems. A corrupt capitalist make take your money. Corrupt socialists and communists take your life. Over 100 million died at the hands of communism and socialism in the 20th century alone. That is the system you love.

Jesus was a socialist? How do you know? Did you ask him? Somehow I am willing to bet you don't even believe in Jesus.. but I'm sure you have no problem exploiting him for the sake of your spin.

You commies love that dirtbag Allende. How many more lies will you tell about him? Allende was elected president with 36.2 percent of the vote. He was not that popular. His military especially hated him. He was in power about 3 years. The last two years was a total disaster. He nationalized the mines and a lot of factories. Foriegn investment dropped to almost nothing. The currency was nearly worthless. Inflation was out of control. The mines he nationalized became almost worthless and the factories he handed over to the workers were a total disaster. So much for your socialist/communist workers state run paradise.

I stand by my assertion that you hate this country.... at least in it's present form. All you communists do.