ok last post

you need to read this thread before you post on it... i already posted what happened to westx.

westx is not, dead... I don't own my x anymore and have nothing to do with it or any regional x club,

but there is a new sheriff in town.

Damn you Cali guys sure are whiney bitches. Get out and wheel your trucks. If you do something stupid admit it. If you continue to do stupid shit, after people try to help you correct your problem fuck off for being a hard head. I am not the best driver by any stretch of the imagination. When I first started though, I listened to those with more experience than me, namely Carlton, and learned from them.

Count yourself lucky. I pretty much had to learn for myself.

Geez, the things that get yall spun up.
1. Don't sweat the small stuff.
2. It's all small stuff.

Ummmm....yeah.....what he said.

Sorry I haven't answered you yet. I have been too busy playing... You can't leave well enough alone. :rolleyes:

I have to go pick my daughter up from school... help her with her home work... then deal with you hopefully for the LAST time.

Yeah I appreciated the help I received. Of course I left out the part wear I rednecked it through a deep mud puddle up to the door handles about five times and poked a stick into the fan shroud within ten minutes of each other. Almost blew up the engine that day. Thankfully for my truck my next wheeling trip was with SWXC, and I have learned a lot since, and still wheel with them all the time.

Logan, you can take your comments of me leaving anybody and stick them in your ass.

I have never left anyone on a trail run.
2 years ago at goneMOAB, I left the group on the dirt road back to town after 13 hours of Golden Spike. You all had maps, and it was a dirt road back to the highway. The trail run was over at that point. Am I supposed to have you follow me all the back to my condo and open a beer for you ?

Don't ever post false information about me again you miserable, whiny little fuck.

Man alive, do we have a lot of people in here who insist on having the LAST word on everything!

Come on, guys....

Edited to add: Not pointing the finger at you Ian. You posted just before me.

I was done until Logan showed up. I won't have him posting lies about me.

On a lighter note... :rolleyes:

If you ever head a run like this I'll make the trip.

As relative new member of SCCX (less then one year), I just want to post to say it is a great club and has a wonderful group of people. Please don't let this thread make you think otherwise of joining.

I have met all the people you all are complaining about (can you say the same?), so do not rag on them until you know them personally. A few pictures doesn't really tell the whole story.

AXLE is a great driver and has gotten people out of jam before. He helps out fixing other people's Xterras. He is a valuable and contributing member to the club. I am sure he did the best he can do given the situation. No one is perfect... except for IAN. :p

LOGAN is famous in the club as being a bit agressive. I mean who in their right mind would drive their Volvo as an Xterra? He is a great navigator and can pretty much find his way around anywhere. He doesn't leave people behind. I mean, he can technically leave the club since he doesn't have an Xterra anymore, but he stays.

Are they the safest drivers in the world? Probably not, but should they be scorn for life because of their mistakes? No. Both of them are great members of SCCX, and I am sure lots of people in the club appreciates that they offer.

Just go to the website, www.sccxterra.com and read some of the posts there. We have regular Xcursions every month. We help out the environment and got Club of the Year over other 4x4 clubs. How many other Xterra club can say the same?

Anyways, sorry to hear what happenned to your X, Axle. I am glad that you and your family are OK (the most important thing). If there is anyone who can fix it, you are da man.

Gee...then WHAT would you call the direct quote of a statement that you made below from page 3 of this thread Ian? I am sure that it was comforting to the ones who up until then were thinking of following you....

I was only quoting the source! -YOU-

LOGAN

I wondered when this would get moved here...

So who is winning?

So why the hell did I get brought into this and slammed around? I was not even there when Axle went over, I was not even in the same state.

And if you think I am going to sit back and get phone call after phone call and e-mail after e-mail telling me I need to look at XOC...I need to look at XOC.....And then I do look and see you all slamming ME for no reason...

That is why I quit posting here in the first place. If Todrick keeps his fingers out of here so will I. And we all know THAT will never happen....

LOGAN

Do me a favor and learn how to reply to posts. The quote goes on the top, not the bottom.

Here's an example...

A. Because it is hard to understand.
Q. Why shouldn't we top post ?

THANKS... I always wondered about that...

This thread is finger-lickin' good!!!!!!

nope... but you can thank Renee for bringing you into into it... i was contenet not to use your name or situation... i fyou look at my first post you can see i did not mention you by name, or give details about the situation.

then renee spewed the lie you all made up... by that point i had already said i wasn't playing that game anymore so i had to point out the revisionist history

So are you all saying that I shouldn't go on the upcoming SCCX Xcursion, which will be my first? I'm sorry, but I haven't been convinced about it being unsafe. I know enough not to follow others if I feel uncomfortable. I have always off-roaded on my own (CJ7) and wouldn't hesitate to head off on my own if I felt unsafe.

My only concern would be that I may possibly hold up the group. I would hesitate (big time) doing 100 across a dry lake and my main purpose of a run would not be to see how far I can push my X.

Joining the group was my new safe and sane way of going off road. I have always gone by myself, but a lot of people have a problem when they hear that. They are probably right. Now I'm not sure if I would fit in after reading these posts. It's kind of sad.

I guess this answers the question of what effect this thread is having on XOC and Xterra clubs in general.

never go alone...

go out with SCCX, you be the judge...

really i would suggest you wheel with people that you think share the same ideologies as you, in regards to trail choices, trail etiquette and driving techniques.

you already have a background in off-roading, so you should know right from wrong.

Honestly, I'm not telling people to not go on sccx runs. I'm just letting them know that it is important to learn what your doing from people who know what they're doing... and certain sccx members (not all, or even the majority) have demonstrated time and again that they don't.

in the end it comes down to common sense, something you seem to have...

so go, have fun, Be safe...
and keep the rubber side down

don't hesitate to come on the next xcursion. i have only been to one xcursion, and thus only met logan once.
while i have never wheeled w/ axle, i can thank him for installing my lift and overall being a VERY helpful person who spent pretty much TWO WEEKEND AFTERNOONS with my xterra. i have great respect for him as a family man, friend and mechanic.
as for logan: on the xcursion i went on, we had some 4x2's with us. logan intentionally went ahead and left his frontier in 2wd to see if the 2wd xterras could make it. he cooperated with the other team members just fine and had the safety of others in mind.
sccx in general: a great group of people. come on the next xcursion, xterrah. decide for yourself.

this is exactly what i was talking about a few pages before. if it's personal, keep it that way. don't brand an entire group because of personal issues.

Ha ha Madman, that was on HBO last night. I love that movie.

You guys need to go to the video section and see the picture of Ian being safe on a motorcycle in the "oh my" section.

Quite the example.