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#204275 - 02/10/03 04:04 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Originally posted by BurgPath:

Case in point: Guy up North had a flag pole with a US Flag he flew everyday. Neighbor complained that it was too noisy. Court made him take it down. (Was in the news sometime ago.)

So how do you find a balance between the 2 'rights'?
That guy should have called the ACLU and went to a higher court. Unless the flag was made out of the same material as plastic grocery bags it wouldn't be making that much noise in the wind.

I that article had been posted here I would have been up in arms about it.
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#204276 - 02/10/03 04:15 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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self-expression is great, just keep it to yourself.

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[LOL] I think that is a Bush-ism.

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#204277 - 02/10/03 05:32 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Originally posted by Kerensky97:
That guy should have called the ACLU and went to a higher court.
The ACLU probably would not have taken the case. They only like representing baby rapers and atheists now it seems.
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#204278 - 02/10/03 05:50 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Originally posted by 2001frontier:
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Originally posted by Kerensky97:
[b]That guy should have called the ACLU and went to a higher court.
The ACLU probably would not have taken the case. They only like representing baby rapers and atheists now it seems.[/b]
Now you know that's not true.

I wondered what their view was on gun rights. Pretty interesting really. They are neutral.

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#204279 - 03/10/03 07:14 AM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Originally posted by Kerensky97:
Unless the flag was made out of the same material as plastic grocery bags it wouldn't be making that much noise in the wind.
You'd be surprised how much noise a flag can make flapping in the wind, not to mention the clips on the rope banging against a steel flagpole...

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#204280 - 03/10/03 07:28 AM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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So basically Moby they take a leftist position on the ammendment. They used to be a great organization. Now they are run by extreme leftists that are more interested in protecting the 'rights' of groups like Nambla, while ignoring the rights of the majority. They pick and choose what rights they want to support based on whether or not the case fits with their left-leaning agenda.
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#204281 - 03/10/03 07:28 AM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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I agree, flags flapping in the wind can be really noisy, but to force him to take it down? I think that's a bit much. It can't be that windy every single day.
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#204282 - 03/10/03 07:38 AM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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I agree, flags flapping in the wind can be really noisy, but to force him to take it down? I think that's a bit much. It can't be that windy every single day.
Exactly, why not just wrap some duct tape around the metal that is making the noise? The nieghbor had an agenda.
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#204283 - 03/10/03 08:09 AM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Originally posted by 2001frontier:
So basically Moby they take a leftist position on the ammendment. They used to be a great organization. Now they are run by extreme leftists that are more interested in protecting the 'rights' of groups like Nambla, while ignoring the rights of the majority. They pick and choose what rights they want to support based on whether or not the case fits with their left-leaning agenda.
NAMBLA is something I will never understand. That's just bizarre.

But they don't protect the rights of groups. They try to protect the rights of individuals - and of course that means against the majority - regardless of what that majority happens to be.
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#204284 - 03/10/03 08:11 AM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Originally posted by babyX:
[b]I agree, flags flapping in the wind can be really noisy, but to force him to take it down? I think that's a bit much. It can't be that windy every single day.
Exactly, why not just wrap some duct tape around the metal that is making the noise? The nieghbor had an agenda.[/b]
I don't think it's an agenda - that word gets used WAY too often by the conservatives.

I think it's just that the neighbor is a whiney asshole.
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#204285 - 03/10/03 08:47 AM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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I think it's just that the neighbor is a whiney asshole.
Sounds about right.

Who cares what t-shirt some kid wears anyway? You think he's the only one who thinks that statement is true? Do you think he's changing the way people think about Bush? Or does it just bother you that someone would wear that and, therefore, shouldn't be allowed to?

Get over it already. :rolleyes:
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#204286 - 03/10/03 11:42 AM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Get over it already. :rolleyes: [/QB]
Exactly. I'm going to go put on my Che Guevara shirt right now!

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#204287 - 04/10/03 05:28 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Originally posted by 2001frontier:
So basically Moby they take a leftist position on the ammendment. They used to be a great organization. Now they are run by extreme leftists that are more interested in protecting the 'rights' of groups like Nambla, while ignoring the rights of the majority. They pick and choose what rights they want to support based on whether or not the case fits with their left-leaning agenda.
Those are some pretty interesting Opinions.
I don't think the ACLU would have bothered representing the man in court but I'm sure they would have been happy to point him to a few laws or groups that would have helped him out.

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Exactly. I'm going to go put on my Che Guevara shirt right now!
Actually I hear those are pretty popular. I guess the only reason they aren't banned are because nobody nowadays know who Che Guevara is.
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#204288 - 05/10/03 01:56 AM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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The ACLU is ruining this country!
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#204289 - 05/10/03 08:08 AM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Those are some pretty interesting Opinions.
I don't think the ACLU would have bothered representing the man in court but I'm sure they would have been happy to point him to a few laws or groups that would have helped him out.
Opinions? We read about it in black and white every day. It is hardly an opinion.
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#204290 - 26/10/03 03:14 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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hey "homos spread disease" is a good tshirt idea!

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#204291 - 26/10/03 04:54 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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hey "homos spread disease" is a good tshirt idea!
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hey "homos spread disease" is a good tshirt idea!
So bored you're bringing back a dead topic? [Wave]
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#204292 - 26/10/03 06:59 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Originally posted by Bobby_X:

hey "homos spread disease" is a good tshirt dea!
Well said. Spoken like a genuine ignorant asshole.

:rolleyes:
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#204293 - 27/10/03 10:47 AM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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[b]hey "homos spread disease" is a good tshirt dea!
Well said. Spoken like a genuine ignorant asshole.

:rolleyes: [/b]
They don't???

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#204294 - 27/10/03 01:25 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Originally posted by off2cjb:

Quote:
Originally posted by Sean:
[b]
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Originally posted by Bobby_X:

[b]hey "homos spread disease" is a good tshirt dea!
Well said. Spoken like a genuine ignorant asshole.

:rolleyes: [/b]
They don't???[/b]
Oh look, another stupid ass chimes in. Are you starting a club?

:rolleyes:
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#204295 - 27/10/03 01:40 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Originally posted by Bobby_X:
hey "homos spread disease" is a good tshirt idea!
so is "Bobby_X is an ignorant asshole"


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#204296 - 27/10/03 01:53 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Originally posted by Todrick:

Quote:
Originally posted by Bobby_X:
[b]hey "homos spread disease" is a good tshirt idea!
so is "Bobby_X is an ignorant asshole"[/b]
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#204297 - 27/10/03 03:46 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Originally posted by Sean:
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Originally posted by Bobby_X:

[b]hey "homos spread disease" is a good tshirt dea!
Well said. Spoken like a genuine ignorant asshole.

:rolleyes: [/b]
lol, I'm ignorant? Don't you prove your own ignorance by you accusing me of being ignorant? Or do you not know what ignorant means? Homosexuals do in fact spread disease, and they are in fact responsible for the spread of aids. Obviously they are not the only vector for aids, but they are largely responsible for it.

Additionally, the statement is further correct because homos do indeed carry and spread disease. Straight people can also spread and carry disease, but that is no the issue at hand.

So, maybe "insensitive" or "asshole" would have been a better insult for you to make towards me? Regardless, try to use your brain before insulting me :-)

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#204298 - 27/10/03 03:55 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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lol you know the statement you made implies that Homosexuals are solely responsible for the spread of aids... if you don't then you are even more ignorant.

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#204299 - 27/10/03 06:06 PM Re: Students anti Bush shirt allowed in High School
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Originally posted by Sean:
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Originally posted by off2cjb:

[b]
Quote:
Originally posted by Sean:
[b]
quote:
Originally posted by Bobby_X:

hey "homos spread disease" is a good tshirt dea!
Well said. Spoken like a genuine ignorant asshole.

:rolleyes: [/b]
They don't???[/b]
Oh look, another stupid ass chimes in. Are you starting a club?

:rolleyes:

Thank you Sean for once again showing everyone that no matter what the subject is, you choose to take the low road and begin the whole name calling thing.
Are you going to tell everyone out there in XOC Land that homos do not spread any diseases? Is that the statement you are making? A simple yes or no to both questions will suffice.
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