Now the racism and real meaning of your statement "government policy" rears it's ugly head. I suspected it. That's what all you people mean when you say American policy.

You are an anti-semitic prick who blames everything on the Jews and Israel. You also think terrorism is caused by our support for Israel.

Anti-semitism is really big up there in Canada. Is it now the national sport? Should we let the Muslims kill all the jews? Would that make you feel better?

Anti-semitism is pretty huge with you socialist pricks in Canada and Europe.

I am software engineer, or programmer if you must. "these skills" are not of your concern.

As of "political" picture - i was many time checked by department of defense and other agencies and granted certain set of licenses to deal with export of technologies that are in the sphere of national interest of USA. And it was back in times of cold war, and after that. I do believe they are more strict in certain ways than you are.

So - like i said, piss off, mate. If you cant say anything real other than screaming "communist pigs" - just shut up.

Hmm.. There hasnt been real communist country i think yet. But all the countries from "socialistic camp" i know of - paid taxes, hence supporting goverment.

There was one he didn't that I can think of. Greenspan - who has a lot more power than most.

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I don't trust George Tenet.

But wasn't he the one that told them not to put it in the Cincinnati speech? Who let it slip through in January?

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If anything, 9/11 proves he managed over an agency riddled with an unacceptable degree of incompetance.

But most of those people under him aren't appointed. I'd say 90% of the government workers have been in their organization, or within the government in some capacity, for years.

Are you saying they didn't have them aimed that way before '98?

Regardless... I personally don't think either the USSR or the US ever had the balls to fire them. At least not a first strike. They both might have done a hell of a lot of sabre rattling, but they weren't stupid. They knew the consequences.

Yup. They were aimed to those. long before 98th. And yeah - if any of big chums would start firing back then - by now only Africa and Australia would probably exist.

It once nearly went to the point, in the days of Carribean crisis, but thankfully both countries were smart enough to not follow impulse.

There never has been a communist country. A "communist" country would have no government. Socialist, on the other hand...lots of those.

Communism does not have reward or motivation. That alone would stop it from ever existing.

Your saying the US and canada are more "communist" because of taxes is only the economic part of it. Communism is both economic and political, which isn't the case with capitalism and democracy.

Speaking of weird shit that those in charge do for their citizens:

Chemical weapons destruction

If i would be living in that town and have kids - i probably would go and lay under wheels of first freaking truck with that shit moving in. Its chemical weapon and its the middle of city. And sarin is pretty bad thing to get out.

Comrade Uzbad....

For a computer guy you really make it difficult to follow your posts. Start quoting correctly. All the following quotes are yours....

This was a theme when the US were a bunch of colonies of England. This has nothing to do with you. This does not apply to present day ungrateful immigrants who are here for money and have no interest in citizenship. Besides... there is no law stating this. You want to work here, you pay taxes comrade.

Why not? Is there some kind of Russian tax I am not aware of. Do immigrants get taxed at a higher rate? This is more of your bullshit. You are a resident alien (I hope you are here legally). Beyond the fees for that, how else are you paying more than the rest of us? Also please explain how medical insurance that you purchase on your own is more expensive than that for a US citizen the same age who purchases his own insurance? Unless you are from Chernobyl, this sounds like another lie. You just don't like paying for anything that your former shithole government provided. Too fucking bad.

Yeah some future. I guess you are living it. It never had any future comrade. It was destined to go broke and crumble under it's own weight. How many millions were killed for the good of the state.

I am curious how you refuse to address the untold millions of Soviet citizens murdered by their own government.

Resident aliens who pay into the sytem are eligible. You can live here your whole life here without becoming a citizen. They collect SocSec. I know senior citizens who are resident aliens who collect. Maybe there is a special law covering just you. There must be something you are not telling us regarding this matter. Are you hiding something? Are you here legally?

Welcome to everyone's problems with the system. Many of those pricks are from former USSR. I don't like communist liars being here even one hour a day.

It was kind of a joke...as in you want government to do everything for you. I am not surprised you didn't get it. A lot of you people from USSR have no sense of humor. Like a bunch of emotionless Frankensteins with a hammer and sickle stamped on your head.

The Soviets I have known are not friends.

Too bad you didn't feel like standing in line. I thought you Soviets were used to that. How many hours for a roll of toilet paper?

A couple of dozen years.... try a dozen years comrade. I know it seems like a long time since the workers paradise collapsed. Have you tried Cuba? They provide everything you need...well except maybe freedom. Who needs that right comrade?

Again... by your post it sounds like you are here illegally.

We are paying a lot of your former countryman. Something sounds wrong with your story as I have said. I am glad you never received any handouts. Good for you if you are telling the truth. It's a positive in your favor.

That is by no means a special skill. There are many US citizens who do the same thing and they are out of work. Many on this board. There is nothing special about you comrade.

Of course they would check you out. A Russian in the USA working on technology for export during the Cold War. Why did you post this? Did you think this was unusual?

How about you shutting the fuck up and stop criticizing our country. A country that supplies you with a good livelihood. A country that you have no interest in becoming a citizen. You have been here since the Cold War and still have no interest in becoming a citizen? I would also think you would write better after all these years. No one expects you to win a spelling bee, but your writing could be a little easier to read.

I hope you write code better.

Will your son be an American? He is now. Will he stay that way comrade? (Just curious)

There are many untruths in what you have said comrade. I am hoping you clear these things up.

NYMadman, your condescending attitude toward Uzbad is slipping toward almost a racist tone.

Take it off this board.

I know you have to break everyone down into little easy to manage groups that you can hate, but it's really getting old.

The more you post about your hatred of all things un-American, the more I get a mental picture of some 60 year old fart sitting on the porch with a shotgun who hasn't looked at a calendar in 20 years.

I wasn't aware "Soviet" was a race.

As far as condescending.... he gives it out as good as he takes it.

Not sure what "slipping toward almost a racist tone" is supposed to mean. I didn't say anything racist. If you read the thread I believe you would see he was more insulting toward the "race" in question than I ever was.

I know he is your friend and I guess you have taken a side.

I haven't taken a side, I just don't care for your attitude toward Uzbad (or anyone who isn't 100% white American, came over on the Mayflower).

I used the term racist, because we don't have a good word for someone like you who isn't tolerant of anyone who is different from you.

Interesting statement...

Uzbad and I are each just as "white" as the other. If there was attitude in our exchange, we are both guilty.

You know I am not a racist. I couldn't care less what someone's skin color is. What you mainly object to is my political and societal opinions. Strange since this is a political thread that you started. It was assumed you wanted a political discussion. If an attitude is calling "bullshit" on some of the things the guy posted, then I am guilty. His response sent it into further negative territory. He is a friend of yours and you don't know me. I can understand that.

The only "intolerance" I ever witness on XOC is via peoples opinions. I am by no means the only guilty party as far as this is concerned. I present valid arguments backed up by facts and many don't like what they hear. Many people don't like facts or reality. I am by no means a totally innocent party but calling me a racist is just wrong. I am called all sorts of names here and usually the worst names I sling are "lefty" or "liberal". I can't remember the last time you ever came to my defense while I was being barraged with insults...but that is OK. I don't mind. We are obviously on different ends of the political spectrum and view things differently. Nothing wrong with that. You have strong opinions yourself and never look at the other side on many issues but I would never call you "intolerant".

I thought "conservative" was the code word used to describe a perceived view of intolerance by those who feel as you do. Well...everyone has a level of intolerance on certain subjects. That's just the way it is. For a board operator you do have a lot of patience not only with me but with the whole crowd and this is to your credit. I am sure everyone appreciates it.

By the way.... I don't have a porch and I am actually slightly younger than you. I have been farting a lot the past couple of days though....

You just can't have a civil debate with anyone without bringing something out from under the table. You have continually called him comrade (I doubt he's your friend), commie and a communist just to get him riled up. I just think you could be more tactful.

BTW, I have only met Sergei once, and have had many more words with you on this board than him, so I'm not taking sides.

Yes I started this thread, by posting what I though was a humorous look at the situation the USA is currently in. What I got for it was recommendations to move out of the USA from brainwashed individuals who think our government can do no wrong.

Your only response was your usual "Leftist Bullshit!!!11!" reply without even bothering to do any research.

You had nothing to offer to rebut the statements in the original post because you know they are facts, so you found someone else to fuck with.

You let me down by showing me who you really are, just another useless Angry American™.

Sounds like an excuse to me. I hear Mexico is hiring...........

Are you suprised we want you out of the country. "Useless Angry American" Dude, it's not that bad. Do you think you are the only one who has ever been unemployed? Get over it, move on and find a better job.

Yes, building American Ford, Chevy and Dodge vehicles.

I guess literacy isn't a big thing in Florida, this discussion is not about my employment.

But since you're so interested, could you go out tomorrow and find a job paying $80k a year ?
Do you think it's that easy ?

The way Uzbad talks about his former country so glowingly, reminds me of all the Germans who had "no idea" there were concentration camps on the other side of those big fences. :rolleyes:

*sighs* I merely pointed out that while there has been lots of crap, there has been social protection to all of people and certain things that made their lifes brighter. If you cant do anything better than comparing me with Germans in 40s after that, well, its your right.

I read only part of the first post from Ian... and this last post from Uzbad...

You are all wrong!

I am right.

That is all!

Andre convinced me!

Yeah i am admitting wrongness of my ways

I will start packing bottles with chocolate milk and cookies for sending to NYC as retribution.

""Thanks, but I would not join the military forces, or work for the US government. The USA is why I am in the financial situation I am in. I don't care much for them.
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That's what I said about you on page two. You only care now because you are unemployed(able).

It's the national governments fault you can't sit in your home office making 80k a year? (BTW is that all? I do that good geez)

You had your time in the sun on the IT wave making games and charging an arm and a leg for it. Great, but it's over for the most part. Too many other people now do it and they do it cheaper.

How is that the national governments fault there Ian? Maybe you should register to vote and get involved instead of sitting there at your keyboard and bitching like a litle spoiled brat.

You idiots spent an entire weekend, sitting around a computer, arguing bullshit . . .



Don't you assholes own 4x4s?

Go drive them . . .