RJ... Your comments are the ramblings of an indoctrinated idiot and really do not warrant much of a response. However I would like to know how much time you have spent in N. Korea? If it was possible for all their citizens to leave and move to the US or S. Korea they would do it in a heartbeat, despite the fact that they get absolutely no news at all from the outside world. It beats boiling grass to stay alive.
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Chia... I am sure you are a nice guy but you have never come across as any type of history buff. You are not even very knowledgeable on current events, politics or geopolitics. I think you are a student and that may be part of your problem. Never believe ANYTHING any college professor tells you in ANY liberal arts course without verification from at least 2 or 3 other outside sources. Just give them the answers they want in order to pass the tests and forget about them.

I do however enjoy reading your posts. Even when it is a blatant suck up.
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Tats... What's the deal with bringing all our soldiers home? It was a war. It still is. Since when do all the soldiers come home as soon as a war was over? How long is it over now? A little over a 100 days. Don't tell me you are part of the spoiled "instant gratification" culture that is all too prevalent in this country. We will be in Iraq for several years. Any one with even an iota of reality or an ounce of sense knew this from the get go. The "instant gratification" media is feeding the public nothing but lies and only portrays the negative aspects of the whole thing. They can't wait to start calling Iraq a quagmire. Some have already. They are working from an anti-Bush agenda pure and simple. It is sad that you as a supposed former member of the service does not see this.
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You know what most of the problem is with Iraq and our military? We simply do not have enough men in the army. The US has become too reliant on calling up reserves everytime we need forces anywhere in the world. After the fall of the U.S.S.R. all the liberal politicians (Dems and Repubs) couldn't wait to scale down the military and allocate D.O.D. funding to domestic social programs. We really don't have many fulltime sodiers anymore. No where near the amount we need for a country this size and the committments the civilian leadership gets us involved in. The prick from Arkansas that spent 8 years in the White House did a good job of increasing military committments all the while scaling down our ability to actually fight a long and protracted war. He totally killed our long held policy of maintaining the ability to fight two major confilcts on two different fronts.

For an operation like Iraq, we should have a large enough full time force to maintain reasonable deployment committments and rotation schedules with fresh troops. But we don't and they should be working on fixing this problem.

I think it sucks that we have to rely on so many reserve units. It's a shame. Bush inherited this situation but it is also true that he could be doing more to change it. This notion of reshaping the military and relying on small rapid deployment forces is ridiculous. Especially when we have a rapidly emerging superpower nation like China who is ramping up and preparing for war with every passing day.

I am also very curious to why the very same people who complain about Iraq never complain that we have been in Bosnia for 10 years and Kosovo for over 5 years. Is it because they were politically correct wars? Is it because the deployment orders came from a Democratic administration? Is it because the incompetant UN is involved? Is it because some people think US forces should only be used for peacekeeping and not offensively? Both places are shit and not much has been done in all these years.

Bush has done a lot of shit wrong. Not suprising for a guy who often goes out of his way to appease the liberals, often with our money. But he was dead right about Iraq and his treatment of the UN.

For those who complain about not finding Bin Laden... what the fuck do you expect us to do? Attack Pakistan because he is being protected by warlords. I've never even heard any of these people utter one criticism of these backward societies that maintain a warlord culture.

The decision to attack Iraq was dead on right. We should have done it years ago. The truth is we had a former president who did not want to deal with any type of risky confrontations and just pushed off problems knowing the next guy to sit in the Oval Office, whomever it was, would have to deal with these problems. North Korea is a prime example of this. Yet I don't hear any of the Iraq complainers harping on this issue.

I also hear a lot of people bitch and moan that other countries hate us because of our policies. What are these policies you people speak of? Let's hear it......

Don't be jealous RJ. Sorry that America has taken over the only thing Canada use to be good at......Hockey. And one more thing you fuck, come to America and smile, and think it is funny that 3,000+ people were killed by a plane crashing into a building. We will hang your stupid, maple syrup eating ass. Fuck you,PRICK!

It means that our government is responsible for what happened on 9/11. Sure, someone else was flying the planes, but our government allowed people to carry weapons onboard an aircraft and hijack them.
Our government allowed those people to enter our country.
Our government gave money to the Taliban which they used for terrorist purposes.
Our government pissed off the terrorists, their countries and their organizations.

And now, 2 years later, our government has done nothing but get more Americans killed while trying to find the 'person' responsible.

No one person is responsible for terrorism. Capturing Bin Laden or Hussein will do nothing but give terrorists more reasons to hate us. The cycle will continue until we realize we need to get the fuck out of everyone elses problems and deal with our own. Close our borders to everyone. Send every illegal back home. Manufacture everything we need in our country. Ignore the rest of the planet.
We could fix this whole place up in 10 years.

Trying to help your unemployment woes, even though you are a butthole about certain things.

Ahhh... Moby... you are wrong again. He was offered to us by Sudan. At that time Clinton felt we had nothing on him legally and turned down their offer. Kind of fucked up huh... treating international terrorists in the same legal terms as a lawyer looking to prosecute someone for shoplifting.

Clinton also never treated the 1993 WTC bombing as a terrorist act. He ordered it investigated and treated as a "criminal" act. Regardless of the fact that the bomber, Ramsi Yousef was an Iraqi agent and is also the nephew of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed (the hairy guy we captured a few months back).

Your hero Clinton is a real piece of work.

Oh PUHLEEEASE.. What do you know about it, man ,to say that?

Have you been ever (as in lets say 20 years in row) living without having to worry what the fuck you will eat in morning? Without having to worry that your boss will kick your ass out and you will be jobless? Without freaking college savings, yet getting nearly best in the world education? Finishing college/university and not giving fuck about what to do b/c you will be provided with job , FREE healthcare, daycare and all sorts of clubs for your kids, and actually either house or flat to live in? Harsh communism my ass..

It was socialism and it did suck in a LOTS of ways, but it wasnt more harsh to people in any way than what is going on with mass histeria about terrorism here and now..

and i been there recently - LOTS of people cant afford fucking glass of milk and piece of bread for every day...

There used to be saying "if you will spit on the community - community will wipe it off its face. If community will spit on you - you will drown"

Didn't work before WWII, what makes you think it would work now? :rolleyes:

Well it will actually work. There is enough resources and patents to be used for that, altough it will require HUGE changes in manufacturing.

Only problem will be actually with closing borders - its simply impossible at the moment, as US never were able to produce their own decent scientific ideas. Can use existing designs, elaborate on them - yeah, and do that great. But initial ideas nearly always were born somewhere else. So it will require about 14-16 years (time for new wave of students completely from 1st grade through college) and serious educational reform to get that cut.

That's not exactly true. Sudan offered to turn him over to the Saudi's. We tried to get the Saudi's to take him (granted, we didn't pressure as much as we should have). They refused. We gave up. We did not turn down the offer.

Either way, Sudan wasn't exactly high on our list, anyway. Do we trust them? Should we trust Iran now? What about Libya?

Sure communism is great if you are one of the party elites in charge. Maybe you had a cushy KGB job and instilled fear in all of your former citizens. Fear of being put in jail or some type of "gulag" or re-education camp. I bet the people in the gulag got a kick out of communsim.

I bet all the "choices" available to you under communism were staggering.

I bet you were a real estate magnate back in the U.S.S.R. Oh wait, I forgot. No private property. The state owns everything and you owe everything to the state. As a matter of fact, the state WAS everything. No individualism. All collectivism. No open practice of religion because God was replaced by the state. Fuck with these rules and you go to a gulag. Sounds really great!

How about the millions killed in Stalin's purges. How about all the other people who simply disappeared because of something they said. I bet criticizm of the government was a proud part of the Soviet system and tradition.

You are just what America needs. Another ungrateful immigrant who loves to criticize America.

Be thankful you have the right to say anything. You never used to.

Are you sure you are not still a communist? We have plenty right here in this country. I would suggest you join the Democratic Party. They would love you. You have a knack for propaganda.

No of course we should not trust Sudan. It is a totally backward, brutal and insane country. It is one of the few nations that still permit slavery to exist. When you really think about it no Islamic country can be trusted. Not even Turkey. Turkey is going down the drain rapidly especially with the recent marginalization of their military in Turkish politics. Their military is the only thing that kept Turkey from adopting Islamic rule. It's future is shaky.

I know the Saudi's had a small role in the OBL thing years back, but I do not agree with the way you portray it. Clinton did not want to do anything regarding terrorism. It was Clinton that was the problem in that case, not the Saudi's.

You do love to protect him. This will always puzzle me.

Not at all. He was an idiot in some respects (seems like all of the presidents are in some way or other). But why is it that when his underlings (CIA/etc) screw up, it's his fault, but when Bush's underlings screw up (Nigeria claim), it's not Bush's fault?

He was a screw up in all respects. He never had the best interests of America at heart. The Clinton's are international socialists. They believe in one world government. You will be hearing much more about Clinton (more than we have) in the near future. He has his eye on the UN Secretary General's job.

Nigeria is an Islamic state that is ruled by Islamic law (sha'ria). Some provinces (Christian) have not adhered to these dictates so there is civil strife. We are talking about a totally fucked up insane nation here. Are you surprised by anything going wrong over there? Don't tell me you think we should send our military over there as peacekeepers?

Again - dont freaking talk about things you have no idea about. My grandmother , my grandfather was executed in 36th, my other grandparents were joined to USSR only b/c they were on portion of Poland that USSR joined after treaty with Germany. I am from what they called "enemy of the people" families (both). We all been under serious attention from "department". So no - i kind of DIDNT had cushy seat.

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I bet all the "choices" available to you under communism were staggering.

How about the millions killed in Stalin's purges. How about all the other people who simply disappeared because of something they said. I bet criticizm of the government was a proud part of the Soviet system and tradition.

1) Neither of people i know were ever afraid to tell what they think. Even back in 30th.
2) Critisizm of goverment - same as you have right now - freely and no problem. Try to do you critizism of goverment in 50th in USA. I used to be one of folkz who went on democratic demonstrations against existing regime back in 80th... So? Yeah i was beaten up couple times So would you, if you will go arounf white house with critics right now. Patriot Act is very cool form of tighten your collar.

i am not saying it was all sunshine. But do not put stupid rubber stamps where you have no right to judge.

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You are just what America needs. Another ungrateful immigrant who loves to criticize America.

Be thankful you have the right to say anything. You never used to.

Rubbish. Not only you immigrant too, if not in first generation, then in Nth generation, but you again have no idea what you talking about. I am not crititsizing United States as country. I am critisizing people who have no idea what they mumbling about and then waving flag as proof, instead of thinking about outside world.

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I never been communist. I never even being in organization of young communists (komsomol) - refused to join them quite publicly. And i am not really looking forward to join any parties here as i dont like politics. But yeah - i do have knack for propaganda In order to lead any group of people - you have to have it.

Anyway let me repeat again - i am not saying this country is bad. I might be not happy with Jr. goverment and decisions - yeah. B/c i am seeing how good country keep sliding to crisis and it reminds me beginning of 90th in USSR. And 9/11 had striking resemblance with explosions in Moscow... But. I dont like people to emphasise how others are crap in order to make themselves look good, specially when they have no idea what others ACTUALLY looks like.

Thanks, but I would not join the military forces, or work for the US government. The USA is why I am in the financial situation I am in. I don't care much for them.

Huh? I was only talking about the Uranium claim.

Canada is hiring, EA is starving for people....you would fit in well up here, rent out your house and come on up to the penthouse for a few years. BC is like Colorado, just ad Ocean

How is the Secretary General selected? By what I can see, the Security Council recommends, but does that not mean we can veto it? Wouldn't Bush's appointee veto it?

Funny thing... I found one sight about Clinton wanting the job - informationclearinghouse.info. And how strange that at the end of the article it says, "Dateline D.C. is written by a Washington-based British journalist and political observer."

What, is the author afraid to give his name?

Uzbad....

Give me a fucking break with your bullshit. I know exactly what I am talking about. I don't believe everything you are saying either. A few posts ago you were describing the Soviet Union as some type of workers paradise....free eduacation, jobs for everyone. A real paradise. It's all bullshit. I do understand the fact that you have pride in the fact that you are Russian (if that is your ethnicity. Soviet Union had many) It doesn't mean you have to be an apologist for a brutal government that killed more of it's own citizens than any other nation on earth.

Don't tell me you are not interested in politics. You clearly are. It is also nice to know you admit your propensity for propaganda. I'm not surprised. You've heard it most of your life. It probably comes naturally to you now.

I don't like when immigrants like you criticize America especially when America goes out of it's way to help people just like you. I bet you entered this country under one of the programs specifically designed for you and those from your former country.(You know damn well what programs I am talking about) We allow you in here, give you fast track to citizenship, we gave you FREE MEDICAL CARE for a long period of time, gave you help in finding housing if it was needed and you were eligible for welfare benefits until you found gainful employment. No immigrant gets more benefits than those from the former Soviet Union....especially those who claim refugee status. All at mine and my fellow citizens expense.

You have received more from the American government than it offers it's own citizens. You have received preferential treatment from our government. Now you turn around and tell us how wonderful communism and your former country was and criticize America all in the same breath.

You come from a country that fucked over it's neighbors, raped the land and it's people and kept hundreds of millions in many nations living in fear for over 50 years and gave absolutely nothing back to those nations. Now you are here telling us that we are fucked up for toppling a dictator and doing the right thing for the people of another nation at our own expense and cost of the lives of our citizens.

You are not only an ungrateful immigrant you are a prick. This country does not need ungrateful immigrants like you. We also have enough home grown liars. We don't need any from some former Soviet shithole.

I have never once heard a THANK YOU AMERICA for all this country has done for you. Nothing but complaints. You're welcome prick....

The Uranium claim has never been proved to be untrue. The Democrats just made a big deal about Bush using it in the SOU speech. There is no verifiable evidence it is not true. It was speculative intelligence data that should not have been made public at least until verification. The Nigerian connection was not just pulled out of a hat. The lies and media crap took off from there.

George Tenet of the CIA is the problem here...not George Bush. Bush's problem was why didn't he clean house when he became president. Tenet is a Clinton boy. He also should have been fired after 9/11. Clinton got rid of everyone when he entered office. Bush should have done the same. This was his first big management mistake. The administration is riddled with Clinton appointees who are actually undermining the current administration.

I don't trust George Tenet. If anything, 9/11 proves he managed over an agency riddled with an unacceptable degree of incompetance.

see above.

I havent recieved anything. Do not mix me with bunch of loosers that you see in NYC. They were and always will be in that "give us" state of mind. Unlike them - i never had to shit on the country (thats where you propaganda got all its little facts) were i grew to go for dream land, where surprisingly you still have to work.

I gave and keep giving - a lot. I am PAYING for your sorry ass medicare shit and other crap, which i will never recieve myself. I am PAYING for your parents social security, as i NEVER will have chance to get mine. Am i expecting any thanks? No. So do your studying and piss off 'till then, mate.

I'm talking about Yogoslavia. The Russians got so heated up back in 98 that they programmed all their missiles to aim at NATO countries, yet never had the guts to because they are not as powerful as they once were, before the US "saved them from harsh communism"

BTW you guys, I didn't put a smilie beside the planes crashing because I think the death of 3000 people was funny. I think it's funny because most of you still don't have a clue about why you were attacked. No it's not because they hate democracy like Bush told you guys, you are not the only country in the world with an elected Dictator (it's ironic isn't it, but when you think globally, what do you think Bush is?) yet you are one of the two countries that constantly receive trouble. Think about what your government's policy have in common with Isreal's.

You guys are fighting all those wars that you think are freeing up people's lives. But do they really think that way? (Don't ask for research proof, I don't go around Iraq tape recording people's opinions, but perhaps you should read their local newspapers and find out) You say you are fighting against terror, others think you are a dictator desperate for colonial land. Remember, the Germans used a similar excuse when they started a whole bunch of fights with other countries - a war to end all wars.

Last thing, I find it really funny that you guys are rating me based on this crap. Afterall, the number of trucks under my name should represent how helpful I am at helping my offroading and Xterra buddies out, not my political view of the world. It's funny how a bit of political discussion is bringing up so much heat on an Xterra club. Well glad this is happening on a forum. If this is after a day off trailing, mixed with a few cans of beer, we'd be starting a bit fight by now

Uzbad...

Hey Comrade...You bitch and moan about paying taxes and FICA. Do you think you are special? Should we have a special withholding rate for communists? Go to hell. Everyone on this board and every worker in this country pays the same thing.

Yes you did praise your former shithole. You never used the words workers paradise, but you implied that in your comparisons to this country. Fuck off comrade and go back to Belarus. (They are still somewhat commie so you may be happy there)

Don't give me any shit that you will never collect Social Security. Everyone who pays is eligible to collect something after a certain period of time....unless you are here illegally and using someone else's social security number. The only other reason you could not be eligible to collect is if you are here on a temporary basis. Too bad if you don't like it. You want to work here, you have to abide by the same rules as everyone else. Besides.... You would never make the same amount of money back in the toilet you came from.

Are you a U.S. citizen comrade? If you are you will be here at retirement and COLLECT. So what's the problem. You think the government should take care of your communist ass? Fuck off.

Too bad you don't like the system. We all have to put up with it. You are nothing special. If free healthcare, jobs for everyone and stuff... is what you want, what are you doing here? We are not communists if you haven't noticed. Did the Soviet government also wipe your ass too? Sounds like you think government is responsible for everything. Hard to believe a spoiled brat like you came from the U.S.S.R.

Every other former Soviet I have met hated their former government. They were all criminals but they were not communists and never spoke glowingly about it like you.

I'm glad to hear you never received any handouts from the U.S. government. You are not worthy of a thing from American taxpayers. (Yeah shithead...we call our country America in casual conversation). Keep giving and giving then kindly get your communist ass out. We will gladly keep your money comrade. We will use it to pay for the other numerous former Soviet deadbeats living here.

Why don't you tell us what you do for a living. What are these skills that you possess that few people have?

Real communism (not the ideal one) do not work the way you think. US, as well as Canada, is actually a lot more communism than real communism countries. The definition of communism is that you work for the "common". In North America, if you are too rich, then you get heavily taxed and some of your money go to the government, or the common. From there, it'll go to the poor who are in need of the money. That's exactly how communism suppose to work.

But in real communism countries, there are no tax and there are no support from the government. The rich only gets richer and the poor only gets poorer (one reason why China, although fastly developing, have an unstable society, you see bicyles and S-class driving on the same streets everyday).

Communism only works for it's time period, it's now outdated. North Korea is the only TRUE communism in the world right now (China is more theoretical, you can own property and multibillion dollar businesses) and that's why they will eventually collapse unless they change it. Communists are great fighters but not great rulers.