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#202439 - 09/05/05 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by Smith: Originally posted by porsche996: [b]I'm not gay. Things don't go into my ass and come out later...
So the gerbils never come back out? [/b]nope. neither did the cat. (figure that's your next question)
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#202441 - 09/05/05 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by porsche996: Originally posted by Mobycat: [b] Less than 1% of the total population are fags. I'd like to see your source for that figure. Did you just pull that out of your ass? Take your pick as to the number. Depending on where you look, it's between 1% and 7%.
And no, I didn't just "pull that out of my ass". I'm not gay. Things don't go into my ass and come out later...
But you want sources?
Try google:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gay+population+united+states
Then start picking on results...
Wow. Didn't realize I needed to teach you how to search on the internet...
But here:
Studies on gay and lesbian populations in the United States offer estimates that vary from 1 to 9 percent of the general male population and 1 to 5 percent of the general female population From this site: http://www.losangelesalmanac.com/topics/Population/po55.htm
But if you really want the definitive answer, the US Census Bureau statistics are summed up in this article:
http://www.urban.org/UploadedPDF/1000491_gl_partner_households.pdf
Please look through it, and you will see that only 0.99% of the population, as reported by the US Census Bureau (the ONLY official census in the United States), are gay.
[/b]I don't need to search, but apparently you need reading comprehension classes. You said "less than one percent." The percentage you gave from the census is of "COUPLED" households. You DO know what the difference is between an individual and a couple, right?
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#202442 - 09/05/05 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by porsche996: If you believe the US is the devil, and it's such an awful place, and not worth fighting for, then leave. Plain and simple. Why do people of lower intelligence trot this out like some kind of trump card? When somebody goes to a Town Hall meeting to complain about the potholes on Main Street, does the alderman scream "IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE POTHOLES, THEN MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE YOU ELITIST LIBERAL CUNT!!!" No? Why not? Is it because it's an argument that only a dumbass would use? Is it because it's not an argument at all, but just stale rhetoric reserved for when frustrated micropenises can't come up with a logical retort? Is that what it is? Why don't you scream for me to move back to Russia where all the other Pinko Commies live, 'cause that's just about how timely and original your little clichés are.
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#202443 - 09/05/05 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by Shahram: Originally posted by porsche996: [b]If you believe the US is the devil, and it's such an awful place, and not worth fighting for, then leave. Plain and simple. Why do people of lower intelligence trot this out like some kind of trump card? When somebody goes to a Town Hall meeting to complain about the potholes on Main Street, does the alderman scream "IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE POTHOLES, THEN MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE YOU ELITIST LIBERAL CUNT!!!"
No? Why not? Is it because it's an argument that only a dumbass would use? Is it because it's not an argument at all, but just stale rhetoric reserved for when frustrated micropenises can't come up with a logical retort? Is that what it is?
Why don't you scream for me to move back to Russia where all the other Pinko Commies live, 'cause that's just about how timely and original your little clichés are.[/b]Shahram; Have you served in the U.S. Military? (any branch) I you have , then dont worry about what others say about you, you have put your time in.
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#202444 - 09/05/05 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by Shahram: Originally posted by porsche996: [b]If you believe the US is the devil, and it's such an awful place, and not worth fighting for, then leave. Plain and simple. Why do people of lower intelligence trot this out like some kind of trump card? When somebody goes to a Town Hall meeting to complain about the potholes on Main Street, does the alderman scream "IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE POTHOLES, THEN MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE YOU ELITIST LIBERAL CUNT!!!"
No? Why not? Is it because it's an argument that only a dumbass would use? Is it because it's not an argument at all, but just stale rhetoric reserved for when frustrated micropenises can't come up with a logical retort? Is that what it is?
Why don't you scream for me to move back to Russia where all the other Pinko Commies live, 'cause that's just about how timely and original your little clichés are.[/b]Why do we use this arguement? Because the idea of actually changing the system, the way things work, through your representatives, governement, laws, etc., escapes you. All you do is piss and moan. If the liberals would actually pull their collective heads out of their collective asses, then they might actually be able to get some of their positions lobbied into law. But instead of doing something about it, they sit there and whine about how bad things are... And if that's all you're gonna' do, then leave... I promise you, if you go to a townhall meeting, and just complain about the potholes, yet give no suggestions as to how the small town will pay to fix them, they're going to tell you to leave. Why? 'Cause all your doing is whining, and whining doesn't get you anywhere. So please. whine on. But could you at least do it from another country?
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#202445 - 09/05/05 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by porsche996: If the liberals would actually pull their collective heads out of their collective asses, then they might actually be able to get some of their positions lobbied into law. Who are these liberals you keep bringing up? Are you talking about liberal representatives? Liberal lobbyists? Are you trying to tell me that there isn't a liberal lobby in the U.S.? Or that the liberal lobby is ineffective? Who represents the liberal lobby anyway?
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#202446 - 09/05/05 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by Shahram: Originally posted by InfX708: [b]The IRA is purely political. They simply want the same thing we wanted - their own free country. Unfortunately, you also have British loyalists who want Ulster to remain part of the UK. The fact that most of them are Catholic is irrelevant. Some of the loyalists are Catholics as well. I agree with you that the IRA is a political entity, but you must admit they discern themselves by their Catholicism. Their recent "Irish Unity" socialist policies and their complete abandonment of religious imagery and language are a result of a PR retooling since the Good Friday Agreement. My assertion was that Christians, as a people who subscribe to a non-violent theology, are often the first to give into violence. You're right, though. Maybe the IRA wasn't the perfect example of this.[/b]There are always people who will claim a religious reason for committing violent acts - have been for centuries. Judging an entire religion on the acts of a few people is really stupid. Most of the world's religions subscribe to a non-violent theology, yet most of the violent acts committed are by so-called members of these religions. I was in IRaq for a year. I saw a lot more selfish and violence prone Muslims than anything else. Hell, even some villagers said they could tell that our chaplain was Catholic because when he brought gifts to the village, he thought of everybody, not just the Christians. Has this led me to the conclusion that Muslims have a tendency towards violence? Not really. I understand that a person's actions are based on a lot more than religious teachings. Some people are just really fucked in the head. They twist things so that their actions will have a morally rightous basis, because not too many people are demented enough to want to do something wrong, knowing that it is wrong. That is why myself and a few other members here have the task of killing Muslim wackos and the SAS has the task of killing Irish wackos. BTW, the struggle to free Ireland is not an entirely Catholic enterprise. The IRA just happens to be the most vocal and claim Catholicism as their guidance. Of course, these are the same folks that kill priests.
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#202448 - 10/05/05 08:25 AM
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#202451 - 10/05/05 01:14 PM
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...I say, until you can prove unequivocably, that being gay is genetic (it has NEVER been proven, or even suggested, with modern medicine) and not a choice... In the news today: Gay Men Respond Differently to Pheromones "It is one more piece of evidence ... that is showing that sexual orientation is not all learned," said Sandra Witelson, an expert on brain anatomy and sexual orientation at the Michael G. DeGroote School of Medicine at McMaster University in Ontario, Canada.
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#202453 - 10/05/05 06:58 PM
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This whole thing is stupid. You guys bitching about gays are just insecure.
I say everyone should mind thier own business.
Funny, how the only person actually in the military who replied could give a rats ass one way or the other.
I personally think it's a different world in the combat zone, and if a gay made it through basic, advanced, and all the other training and tests, then they are able and willing to KILL if needed, and that my friends is all that is nessecary.
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#202454 - 11/05/05 10:30 PM
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we all signed up for the same thing. the millitary has whats called a "don't ask, don't tell" policy on homosexuality; actually on sexuality in general. you dont bring that stuff to the work place. peroid. we all signed up for the same thing. to defend this great nation, and the people residing here. gay or not, its for a higher cause.
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#202455 - 12/05/05 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by WolfmanX: ......only person actually in the military..... Where are you getting your information from? There have been several service members with their own opinions. Most of us don't give a shit because the current policy works. The way I see it, it's the gays who are complaining.
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#202456 - 12/05/05 08:50 AM
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Not sure if this is cliched or not, but I tend to think of sexuality like a plumber would. Male adapters just arent meant to be fitted to male adapters! Theres a reason why female adapters fit so well to a male adapter and work right and fine. So yes, I am anti-gay. Physically it doesnt match up and morally its wrong too. (at least in my humble opinion). Does this mean im insecure? Whatever you want to think. It's the oldest retaliatory excuse in the book, and its cheap and unoriginal. I have gay friends (as do most people) and have no problem getting along. I just dont agree at all with their "preference". Gays in the military is an even stupider prospect. If they want to be gay, fine, but you better keep it to yourself while working. Conform to the normal accepted military dress code (that weve abided by since our country was started!), dont be hitting on other guys, and dont expect these ridiculous military gay pride rituals!
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#202457 - 13/05/05 02:20 AM
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ok, offroaders may not be all rednecks but we never seems to be too far from slightly pink. we are improving, at least we are willing to drive a car by a Japanese company (unlike the ultraconservative jeep drivers they are likely all southern baptists0 but I am disappointed at the lack of creativity. it seem all reasons suggested for not allowing open gays in military has been used half a century ago for keeping the military from racialy integrated. (just replace "gay" with "nigro" in all the above postings), including that shower stuff. the only difference is, of course the african americans cannot keep their "blackness" to themselves
cannot come up with anything new?
who gets to decide whats natural and moral? the church that once said the world is flat? or the church once said slavery is moral? or the church saying women should obey men?
Isereal military has open gay policy and you cannot question their combat effectiveness
been gay is not a choice no matter what your parents tell you, simple genetic alteration can produce homosexual behavior in insects and animal.homosexaul behavior has been documented in oldest culture. We are looking at random genetic variation which has been stable throughout human history. Which means you son or daughter can be gay or your parent could be closet gay
I don't think all people who do no belief in homosexuality are insecure about their sexuality. most of them are just following their beliefs. but my feeling is that people who are very aggressively anti-gay often have deep seeded psychological issues which could include sexual identity problem
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#202458 - 13/05/05 05:34 AM
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Originally posted by neuron: ok, offroaders may not be all rednecks but we never seems to be too far from slightly pink. we are improving, at least we are willing to drive a car by a Japanese company (unlike the ultraconservative jeep drivers they are likely all southern baptists0 but I am disappointed at the lack of creativity. it seem all reasons suggested for not allowing open gays in military has been used half a century ago for keeping the military from racialy integrated. (just replace "gay" with "nigro" in all the above postings), including that shower stuff. the only difference is, of course the african americans cannot keep their "blackness" to themselves
cannot come up with anything new?
who gets to decide whats natural and moral? the church that once said the world is flat? or the church once said slavery is moral? or the church saying women should obey men?
Isereal military has open gay policy and you cannot question their combat effectiveness
been gay is not a choice no matter what your parents tell you, simple genetic alteration can produce homosexual behavior in insects and animal.homosexaul behavior has been documented in oldest culture. We are looking at random genetic variation which has been stable throughout human history. Which means you son or daughter can be gay or your parent could be closet gay
I don't think all people who do no belief in homosexuality are insecure about their sexuality. most of them are just following their beliefs. but my feeling is that people who are very aggressively anti-gay often have deep seeded psychological issues which could include sexual identity problem way to pontificate on your first day. A simple hello would have been nice instead of calling us uncreative rednecks. Not going to win yourself very many friends around here that way. What kind of X do you have? Any mods? These are the things that make a good n00b, not holier-than-thou posts about morals and belief systems.
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#202460 - 13/05/05 08:39 AM
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I tend to think of sexuality like a plumber would. Male adapters just arent meant to be fitted to male adapters! Theres a reason why female adapters fit so well to a male adapter and work right and fine This whole thing is stupid. You guys bitching about gays are just insecure.
I say everyone should mind thier own business.
Funny, how the only person actually in the military who replied could give a rats ass one way or the other.
I personally think it's a different world in the combat zone, and if a gay made it through basic, advanced, and all the other training and tests, then they are able and willing to KILL if needed, and that my friends is all that is nessecary.
This is the truth ..... but this insecure myth is just shit.
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#202461 - 13/05/05 09:09 AM
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Say me and Ross are in the military. Is it really even that I can introduce my wife to someone else at a military gathering but TK can't bring Chuck along?
Just sayin..
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#202462 - 13/05/05 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by Chris..: Say me and Ross are in the military. Is it really even that I can introduce my wife to someone else at a military gathering but TK can't bring Chuck along?
Just sayin.. Is this some kind of a crazy sex riddle? Or are you back on the pipe? Who's TK? Who's Chuck? Quit lying about being married! We all know you still love me!! (I mean, how could ya not? Remember the member? The special "Ross Sauce"?) Although you're wife is pretty hot. Smith says she has popcorn (if ya know what I'm talkin' about!). Spank Me!!
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#202463 - 13/05/05 11:12 AM
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That long post made my head hurt. Please learn how to type.
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