HERE is a link to the information. I was told it would be about 1 hour out of Reno and 1 Hour or so on the dirt to get to the site where the kids are. Anyway, if you're looking to do a run August 21st-22nd. This is a great cause, and should be some good wheeling.

Charlie

Great trip for a great cause charlie. Do you mind if I send this out to the yahoo group? Any ideas if it will be stock X friendly?

I really can't say for sure if it's stock friendly, but I can't imagine them wanting to place kids in harms way. If stock X's show, someone will let them know if it's adviseable or not. Most of the trail ratings discussed have to do with the "side runs" before we meet up with the kids at the lake. Camp WAMP is truly a good deal. A lot of the kids are wheelchair athletes from what a friend of mine at the Center (NNCIL) says. We'll make sure it's a good time for all and won't test too many limits on this one.

Feel free to post the information as the attitudes expressed by the Hills Angels are along the lines of "The more, the merrier."

This sounds interesting to me. It's a location to which I've never traveled before, and it's not only an opportunity to lube up the front diff, but it performs a valuable service, too. (Any way to write off the gas expense? ) I'm guessing that the trail totally stock friendly. I can't imagine having a non-profit camp so remote that only lifted, locked Jeeps could get there. If you want to do any 'wheeling on Saturday (which has nothing to do with toting disabled kids around), it appears that the trail difficulty is your discretion... just don't break down before it's your time to be a taxicab! :p

Here\'s their official web site. Based on the info posted by the HillsAngels member, it looks like some of the logistical issues will be:
1) getting to the camp's remote location by 9AM on Sunday.
2) suitable passenger capacity (plus space to possibly transport one or more wheelchairs)

The HillsAngels guy proposed camping the night before, but in my experience I think many of us tend to fill up our entire trucks with camping gear, leaving little space for extra passengers! Packing lightly will be a necessity.

Charlie count me in for this one!

I've also emailed the group to see if we can get more people interested in going.

Can you post any more info that you might have about traveling out there on Sat and camping? Also any other info that will help with the trip in general. Thanks!

Will do! I will forward information as I get it. You might want to e-mail Mark and let him know you're in... washoelaw@earthlink.net

Packing lightly will be needed for sure, but can you imagine how lightly you would have to pack a Jeep? You could bring what? A candy bar and a bottle of water

Thanks for all the help on this guys

Cool Charlie, I emailed Mark. Anyone else interested? Let me know soon and I'll send on the RSVP to mark.

Here's where Johnsville (the nearest town to the camp) is in case you were wandering.

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps.py?&addr=&csz=Johnsville,CA

A stock X should have no problem with this trail. I ran it the other way with Mark back in June. I'd advise low range for running it the way WAMP is taking. Not too sure I'd make it up in the Freelander.

It's the Gold Valley trail in the books "Backcountry Adventures: Northern CA" and "Guide to Northern California Backroads" if anybody has a copy.

Pictures from our trek are here although some of the later ones are not from this trail. Unfortunately I didn't get pictures of the steeper portions, but nobody should have a problem.

To: CharlieX

I can be there with my stock X to help transport kids and gear. Sounds like a great cause and a good way for us to help.

Jay

Oops, just re-read Mark's message - stock rigs can still make it, but should probably enter from Downieville as opposed to Snake Lake.

Here is the latest update from Mark:

Angels, The Hawley Lake rescue is a GO for August 21-22. We leave Saturday and return Sunday. The meeting place is the gas station (the only one) at the intersection of US 395 north and Cal SR70, hallaluagh junction. (N39.46.51, W120.2.34) This is about 10 miles north of Bordertown casino on US 395 north. Good place to fuel up, get snacks or whatever. Please be there at or before 9 am, and we'll roll approx. 9:15, after the 15 minute courtesy waiting period. Plan ahead.
From there, we will head west on SR 70 past Portola and exit at Blairsden/Graeagle. We'll then head thru Graeagle passing 'last chance gas' and another market. From there we'll take a right turn onto gold lake road and head to gold lake, exiting at the boat launch site. (N39.41.070, W120.6.52) We'll air down and for the old timers, lock in the hubs. We'll proceed along the south shore of gold lake, passing several choice camp sites. Here is where it gets interesting. Depending on the type of 4x4s that attend, our route from here to gold valley may change. Assuming all are trail capable (= not bone stock) we'll take the scenic switch backs up to the gold lake over look and from there intersect with the ridge road and drop into gold valley via the snake lake/little deer lake trail. We expect to camp at or near snake lake (bring ur snake bite kit, HAHA!). fishing is good here, so if ur inclined, bring ur fishing gear. < if a truly bone stock rig attends, we may have to split up and take different trails, but i think we can get all thru the snake lake short cut. We'll just have to alternate rigs w/ and w/out winches, easy!>
Dinner plans are open. Maybe a pot luck of sorts? Depending on the number of attending rigs, we may be slightly dispersed along the lake shore. No stores, 7-11s or gas stations here, this is primitive camping in a
VERY beautiful area. Pack it in/pack it out. I'll have lots of propane and a two burner stove to do a skillet dinner, likely stir-fry for ease of clean up. If ya want BBQ, someone else needs to bring that. (please, gas only, no charcoals) Side dishes are open, but good stuff to share are deli salads, etc. Several old mines in the area and LOTS of challenging trails close by.
We need to roll from camp no later than 8 am sunday morning. We'll be doing a very light 'contenintial' breakfast. From there, we will descend from snake lake into gold valley, hang a right turn and head up hill one mile to Hawley lake. (N39.40.989, W120.42.648) We'll get into the camp ground and meet with the powers that be, get assigned a rider or two and head out to PESP. Be sure to bring ur trail lunch for sunday. I'm told there will be a suburban or two to carry the chairs, but if u have room for one, that's great.
From Hawley Lake, we head north toward the La Porte road, hang a right and we'll soon be in PESP, where we'll say good bye to our guests. From there, its a downhill paved road 6 miles back to Graeagle and this completes the loop. From there, we may disperse or do something else, depending on interest. We'll be passing Joe's 4x4 ranch, so that's possible. Frenchmans? Maybe a back country run past bear valley loop to sardine valley, dog valley and home. That's open to ideas???
We now have approximately 8 rigs committed, so if u want to join thes public service event (we're supposed to get RGJ coverage) there is still time to go. Just email me off list if u can, but in any event, if u can go, follow the above plan or, if u really know the area, find us along the trail or at snake lake. I have a detailed map of the general area i can fax upon demand. Questions not answered? email me direct.
mb

Wow, Graegle is 4-1/2 hours from San Jose. Graeagle looks like it's about 45 minutes from their 9am meeting spot at Hwy395/SR70, so I'm guessing they'll be in Graeagle around 10am... which means I have to leave here at 5:30!!!!!

Hmmm. Maybe I'm not so keen on this trip after all...

Anyone in the east bay or Sacramento county willing to host an overnight guest (or possibly two) on Friday night?

I think that tabitha has offered her place to stay @ IN-N-OUT. But, she's in Stockton...Closer than coming from the bay area, but not that much, either.

Or, as CharlieX was mentioning on NAXC board, Josh (CASPER) lives in Truckee or nearby... he can help you...if he's around. I wonder if he was talking about going on a vacation around that time? I can't remember...

I spoke with Mark a while back about meeting them at camp, but I'll send him another email.

I highly doubt I'll wake up that early to meet them, so I'll make arangements for the Bay Area folk to caravan up and meet the group at camp.

That is quite a haul. I have a messy non-airconditioned house you are welcome to (that's why I'm up and on the web--it's 90+ in our room right now... ).

Also, if you're (or anyone else for that matter) interested I might be able to get away for some camping Friday near Boca and Stampede. From there we could take the back way to meet up with Mark and crew.

Hi all,

What a coincidence that I read about Camp WAMP here and then made the connection that this is the camp that my sister and nephew were helping with a fundraising event a few months ago.

So my nephew and I are leaving the 12th for a long weekend to do some volunteer work at the camp. We'll be going in to Hawley lake from Plumas-Eureka State Park (directions on the camp's web site.) I'll report on this trail when I get back if you want. It's probably not much of a challenge compared to the way in planned by Mark via Gold Lake.

This is a really beautiful area that I'll try my new tires on. BlueJ is no longer stock:31BFG AT's.

Hope to see you all soon, maybe for the 21-22. Meanwhile there are some meteor showers which should be great viewed from the mountains. Have fun at Pardos.
Jean

Hey Jean, good to hear from you and hope to see you there!

I'm still working out details for people leaving from the Bay area (been busy lately), so hold tight guys, but I'll assure you we won't be leaving at 5am.

Any word on the plans from the bay area? Id like to do my part and join if it isnt too late.

Definately not too late. I'll post something by tonight. Sorry for the delay guys but I've been really busy.

Ok, here's the meeting spots for the trip.

Sat (8/21)

7:00am
-Exit 680 @ Monument Blvd (make 1st right meet at the old Montgomery Wards parking lot), just look for the deserted department store building to the right of the freeway

10:00 - 10:30am
-Safeways in Truckee
11290 Donner Pass Rd
Truckee CA 96161
(this will be a food stop)

12:00pm
-We should be in Graeagle

More info to come...I'm still working out trails.

well, sence the meeting place is like 3 exits from my house.. I guess I kinda can't worm my way out of this..
So I am in..

My plan is to get to Tahoe on Friday and play.
I will meet you at Safeway in Truckee.

I will be following Mark and crew and will no doubt see you all when you get there...It should be a fun couple of days.

Awsome! We'll see you there Charlie, keep your ears open for us on CB4 and FRS4.0 Hopefully we'll roll in around 4/5pm just in time for dinner.

So just to be sure the sign-up looks like this...

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1. CharlieX (rolling w/ NV crew)
2. Huey (meeting at Pleasant Hill)
3. XPLORx4 (meeting ay Pleasant Hill)
4. JayMBA (meeting in Jackson)
5. BlueJ??? (Jackson???)
6. 4xNewb??? (Pleasant Hill???)
7. Xtopher (meeting at Pleasant Hill)

Note: if there are ??? next to your name please confirm if you are still going on the trip and your meeting spot.

Thanks!

So just to be sure the sign-up looks like this...

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1. CharlieX (rolling w/ NV crew)
2. Huey (meeting at Pleasant Hill)
3. XPLORx4 (meeting ay Pleasant Hill)
4. JayMBA (meeting in Jackson)
5. BlueJ??? (Jackson???)
6. 4xNewb (meeting @ Pleasant Hill)
7. Xtopher (meeting at Pleasant Hill)

Note: if there are ??? next to your name please confirm if you are still going on the trip and your meeting spot.

Thanks!