im still trying to talk my boss into giving me that saturday off. i told him that i wanted it off bu the "forgot" even tho i wrote it down on the calander on his desk( he is an idiot)! so ill let you know when i find out, if im going to be able to make it

Hey, I saw that the weather forecast for Sunday is really wet and stormy. If it was just me I would camp with you guys but I am bringing my 4 year old son on this trip so we won't be camping overnight. We plan on leaving Saturday so as long as we can make it back to the head of the trail alright; we're good.

Woo hoo, one last trip for the year. I'll try to remember to remove my running-boards and mudflaps.

- Matt

[ South Bay ]
XSAL
KaiOtiK -AKA- Andy

[ Pleasant Hill ]
SLOMatt & Jalopy

[ Campsite ]
Xtopher

[ ? ]
THEEPOLARBEAR

[ Corning ]
Slamson00
tornado04

[ Red Bluff ]
Outbkjack

This is just my guess work; please update your meeting place, so that no one will be left behind.

Slamson00 & tornado04: Will you guys be driving up together?

And, is everyone okay w/ this schedule? (No one has really said anything...)

0800 Meet at Montgomery Ward in Pleasant Hill
1015 Arrive at/Meet Safeway in Corning (30 min. max break)
1045 Leave Safeway in Corning
1115 Arrive at Red Bluff for gas stop (15 min.)
1130 Leave Red Bluff for Paynes Creek
1210 Arrive at Paynes Creek
1240 Arrive at the Trail head

Communication: CB Ch. 25 & FRS Ch.8-0

You mean sliders and 33" tires? Nice to see you can make it.

What weather forecast are you looking? According to weather.com, the forecast for the Paynes Creek is 30% few shower for Sat. and Sun. 30% chances are typically not even enough rain to get the ground wet very much. The campground is really half way through from east or west side of the trail... It might be a bit difficult to get back to the pavement in the dark...but what do I know? Kevin or Chris, please confirm how easy/difficult for Ron to turn around and go back out...when it's getting dark...

And...how come everyone's copying the whole thing, instead of just meeting location part?

I was curious where those coordinates were, which is why I looked them up. I'm in agreement with you that plain English is a better response than cryptic GPS coordinates. I also agree that Chris' sense of humor may not necessarily elicit all smiles from his audience. No need to defend yourself.

Laziness?

I think you are confused, I usually run the runningboards to protected the sliders. And the 33" tires are "mud distributors".

- Matt

Hey SLOMATT,

I concur with your previous statement...

As with yours, my tires are "Bi-Directional Mud Flingers"

Makes for a very messy vehicle at the end of a really muddy trip...YEA

I wouldnt recommend driving out at night unless you have knowledge of the area It really isnt hard getting out but it is a long enough drive out . The other thing going back up the trail by your self I wouldnt recommend. And the forcast Ive seen is a chance of rain on sun. A few us might want to run the trail up hill just to escort you out for fun

A part of me just wanting to sit next to the fire and chill out... The other part of me wanting to go for a night run... Wow.... That's a very dangerously tempting idea... :p

The gps that I gave are not on the trail, they are for my buddys cabin I will be at friday night, and saturday morning.. So if I don't respond on the frs, someone drop by and look for my truck..
The location is from memory, off a map.. should be within 100 to 200 feet tho..

As far as leaving at night, once you get past the trailhead, it is (almost) car driveable (if it is dry, it is car driveable).. getting to the trailhead.. that takes 3 to 4 hours going downhill, you might as well try to run it in a day.. at least then if you get stuck we will find you on sunday.. head back, we may notice you missing monday when you don't respond on XOC. .

I didnt know there were any cabins near the trail head. Matter of fact Ive never seen any cabins there. The last homes were at the begining of the road. Unless you are talking about the cabin on the road. I agree the campire will be nice and warm, And is my first choice But If need be I would escort him up the hill.

Tornado....

I too am thinking about driving back out in the evening and making it a day trip....and since we are both from the Sacto area it kinda makes sense......would make for a VERY long day though. I have to think about this.

Call me lazy. :p

- Huey

[ South Bay ]
XSAL
KaiOtiK -AKA- Andy

[ Pleasant Hill ]
SLOMatt & Jalopy
Huey

[ Campsite ]
Xtopher

[ ? ]
THEEPOLARBEAR

[ Corning ]
Slamson00
tornado04

[ Red Bluff ]
Outbkjack

This is just my guess work; please update your meeting place, so that no one will be left behind.

Slamson00 & tornado04: Will you guys be driving up together?

And, is everyone okay w/ this schedule? (No one has really said anything...)

0800 Meet at Montgomery Ward in Pleasant Hill
1015 Arrive at/Meet Safeway in Corning (30 min. max break)
1045 Leave Safeway in Corning
1115 Arrive at Red Bluff for gas stop (15 min.)
1130 Leave Red Bluff for Paynes Creek
1210 Arrive at Paynes Creek
1240 Arrive at the Trail head

Communication: CB Ch. 25 & FRS Ch.8-0

Ran the above by the wife....she is still game to camp it seems to my surprise....so going back out on Sat night will be a no go for us.

We will see you in Corning.

[ South Bay ]
XSAL
KaiOtiK -AKA- Andy

[ Pleasant Hill ]
SLOMatt & Jalopy
Huey - AKA - Lazy :p

[ ? ]
THEEPOLARBEAR

[ Corning ]
Slamson00
tornado04
Outbkjack

[ Campsite ]
Xtopher

Since some rain is still forecasted in the area, please bring your rain gear, tarp(s), lots of bungee cords.

Oh, Huey.... Please bring full of water in that blue container of yours...again.

Let's see...what else am I forgetting...? :rolleyes:

I have been watching the weather very closely up in this area for the coming weekend. According to many reports they are all pretty certain we will get some rain this weekend. Is this the type of trail that is safe to do so in the rain and or after a good size rain? Most of the trail books I have recommend not using them in rainy conditions for safety and maintenance of the trail?

I supposed people who have traveled this trail in the past can speak to its possible dificulty in the rain and or muddy conditions. Coming with a stock vehicle I have to admit I feel a bit uneasy about it.

I wouldnt worry to much they are saying a chance of rain on sun. The part of the trail Ive been on was mostly rocky and gravely. We are heading down hill so it should even be easier. I know down in the refuge its mostly rocky road very easy drive if its wet and muddy. Dont worry some of us also have winches so it shouldnt be a problem.

The refuge road is fine wet.. it gets a little "fun" with snow tho... mainly at the sharp right turns on the way in, you turn & head uphill.. loads of fun with trailers in the snow..
mostly packed cinder with a little mud on top for good measure.. climbing over wet rocks should be fun tho..

Well at this point I guess I will still give it a try....and keep my fingers crossed on the weather.

See you all in Corning

By the way anyone know how to get to the Safeway in corning?

As previously posted, this is the address.

Safeway
600 Edith St.
Corning, CA 96021
ph: (530) 824-2467

I'm going to use yahoo maps and/or mapquest to find the location.

well i got this saturday off sooooooo... this leaves 2 questions (at least)
1. akio, about what time will you be in/near the cordelia (right where 680 meets 80) area soz outbacjack and myself can meet the crew? and...
2. outbackjack, still want to meet (ahem, me,me me) somewhere over the rainbow, i mean hill???
our meeting time will depend on akios answer. id like to get there early soz we (me & the mrs.) can get some grub. and of course you are welcome to join us.

Sounds fine to me let me know what time and where.

Tell you what... Let's take your original suggestion since there's a couple of people meeting...

0700 [ South Bay ]
XSAL
KaiOtiK -AKA- Andy

0800 [ Pleasant Hill ]
SLOMatt & Jalopy
Huey - AKA - Lazy :p

0830 [ Solano Mall in Fairfield]
THEEPOLARBEAR
Outbkjack

1045 [ Corning ]
Slamson00
tornado04

[ Somewhere near the trail ]
Xtopher

Solano Mall
1350 Travis Blvd.
Fairfield, CA 94533-4695

Safeway
600 Edith St.
Corning, CA 96021
ph: (530) 824-2467

0800 Meet at Montgomery Ward in Pleasant Hill
0830 Meet at Solano Mall parking lot in Fairfield
1015 Arrive at/Meet Safeway in Corning (30 min. max break)
1045 Leave Safeway in Corning
1115 Arrive at Red Bluff for gas stop (15 min.)
1130 Leave Red Bluff for Paynes Creek
1210 Arrive at Paynes Creek
1240 Arrive at the Trail head

Communication: CB Ch. 25 & FRS Ch.8-0

If someone doesn't show up on time at a meeting place, please take off and move onto Safeway in Corning and chill out, I mean, wait there. :p

ok outback me, you, the best buy parking lot 8:30 am be there or be a square light! thanks akio

Larry's wife is at John Muir with somthing or other.. So I guess I will have to go to work tomorrow ..

0700 [ South Bay ]
XSAL
KaiOtiK -AKA- Andy

0800 [ Pleasant Hill ]
SLOMatt & Jalopy
Huey - AKA - Lazy
Xtopher

0830 [ Best Buy in Fairfield?]
THEEPOLARBEAR
Outbkjack

1045 [ Corning ]
Slamson00
tornado04

Solano Mall
1350 Travis Blvd.
Fairfield, CA 94533-4695

Safeway
600 Edith St.
Corning, CA 96021
ph: (530) 824-2467

0800 Meet at Montgomery Ward in Pleasant Hill
0830 Meet at Solano Mall parking lot in Fairfield
1015 Arrive at/Meet Safeway in Corning (30 min. max break)
1045 Leave Safeway in Corning
1115 Arrive at Red Bluff for gas stop (15 min.)
1130 Leave Red Bluff for Paynes Creek
1210 Arrive at Paynes Creek
1240 Arrive at the Trail head

Communication: CB Ch. 25 & FRS Ch.8-0

If someone doesn't show up on time at a meeting place, please take off and move onto Safeway in Corning and chill out, I mean, wait there.